I am going to chime in , I am a west side farmer ,I pay more property tax then most of you on this board , I pay for every acre of ground, personal property tax on every piece of equipment and every damn tool I own . Not all of us take Government help ,I do pay for crop insurance but have paid out way more then I have recieved . Tell you what lets get rid of the farmers here ,Your food is going to come from some third world country that sprays god knows what on it,and pays their workers a couple of bucks a day, and what about the ground let's pave it over, go to your local mall in a rain storm and watch what goes down that drain . Have any of you drove around the eastside , most of the sideroads are gravel, small government buildings,it is not as high class as King County ,As for water every farmer pays for it it is not free. The farmers that collect the big subsides are big corporations from New York not even farmers So quit bitching about something you have no clue about