well I made it out there this morning I was marking fish from 15 to 35 feet of water trolled pop gear with everything and jus ran a straight plain flat fish and got skunked until I went to a private lake and my partner got a nice 20" spawning rainbow and we let it go and we culd see that it wasn't gonna make it we were about to go and get and a bald eagle came and got maybe 30ft from us man that was really cool you could hear the wind over his wings... oh yeah I still got skunked