Interesting thread, I could be filling alot of the blank, I been a union carpenter along time, don't push my buttons. I got no respect for WI teachers crap. I have seen my benefits cut for years and pay more but it is great to have any Insurance. When I joined the Union it was because I was thinking about my retirement and what I get back from my union in a retirement plan is only a third of what it was yearly versus 20 years ago.To keep competive In a out with the union mentality USA means we do give more we don't mind it is part of the times
My wife worked as a city employee for over 20 years and here paycheck for her services in retirement is not enough to live on so yes she works in another job just to help pay bills it isn't like she is banking a pay check!!! Our 2 children are both school teachers one with a Masters and you don't want to really know how much their educations cost! One is married to another teacher and I am very proud of them as they have 401k's and IRA's and don
t plan on retireing on their teacher retirement account! They earn their paychecks just like you and I and don't ask for any hand outs. The WI thing is about not wanting do give up anything when times are tough like now and times are hard right now ,if your a true American you don't mind giving up a little to keep the lights on if not go fvck yourself all of you Democrats,Republicans, Liberals whatever!! Born in the USA and proud of it!!!!!PEACE