I did really well last weekend going with the old favorite an bright red f4 flatfish with a tiny egg weight (just to get it down a little maybe 3-5 feet) ahead of the swivel and a 3 foot leader tipped with a piece of nightcrawler it slayed them....I mean like 25 planters in no time all released...I am going to throw on a single hook to see if that gives better hooksets i dunno about that treble hook they come with