I agree Curt. The failure to look at individual cases really is the problem here. The department made some assumptions about segregation of these hatchery populations. Then they went further and made the assumption that those assumptions applied in basically every stream in the western WA and planted them with Chambers Creek stock. The more we are looking at the real condition of those populations, we are finding many cases where the assumptions were wrong. I won't take the time to total up all the examples of introgression that folks said couldn't happen, but I'm beginning to think that once we look around enough, we will find more wrong cases rather than right.