Big Shark, I have to agree with you on getting the Bulls to come in more when you are in a remote area. We went in on Horseback this last Bow season on the early hunt. I called in several Bulls and my bugling is so bad, when I practice at home, all the dogs in the neighborhood start howling. My hunting partners get in my pack before we head up in the woods and loose my bugle. They try going for my cow call , but that's usually in my mouth,so they leave that alone.