I wouldn't waste your money on the permit. I worked in the woods there for many years and it used to be a good place to hunt deer and elk. Now, the gates are closed....YOU pay for a permit and the muckleshoots get theirs for free. Several other tribes also hunt it hard too. They have slaughted the Elk so bad it was made a permit only area this year for the first time and they pretty much clean the deer out before modern rifle season begins. Hancock has logged so much more then Weyerhaeuser used to that it has made the area a shooting gallery for the tribes....they just drive around at high speeds and hang out the doors of pickups and suburbans until they see a deer or elk and BANG....its really pretty ugly.........Les