just get off the roads,so many times people have stopped and asked my partner and I where we got are elk,as we are packing them out.they are there for the taking u just have to get away from the traffic.Generaly speaking by the time the cow permits open up the elk have become a little more weary.day break and dusk are always best.even if u dont know the area find a dead end and get back into the woods a mile or so.stay off the jeep trails in that unit to many atv and trucks find a small clearing and be patient.Good luck