was hunting about 5 miles outside of vail, walked in about 3 miles behind the gate, brother shot an old nontypical...3 on one side with one of those a drop-tine, the other was taller and wider, with slight palmation at the fork(6.25" circumference)...took it in to the checkstation down the road into vail and the wdfw boilogist there(i think it was mccallister)estimated the buck to be an astonishing 8-9 years old...should probably eat up like rubber...he said it was the biggest one they've seen so far this year(as of sunday 24th)..relatively slow in vail this year but i've seen a good number of deer, an average of about 8 a day...i can only hunt there in moderation, although it is only 15 minutes away-plenty of other real nice gated walkins close by, nearest on being 400 yards from my driveway..i'll work on getting a photo up