Yeah, entirely serious, Hank.

Nobody -- NOBODY here thinks the "cultish" behavior we're discussing and those trying to impose "church" doctrine onto public policy are part of the group identifying as nothing-in-particular.

Except maybe you. And try as I might I can't seem to point out that distinction clearly enough for you to resolve it.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
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