Bob, If your buddy had to drop through the bar of his J.W. boat he was in a scout.The scout is a 399.00 dollar boat desighned for stillwater.
The Renegade, that dave bought uses a foot peg system slightly smaller than the Pac-800, allso no straps pass under the the pontoons of the Renegade or any other of J.W.'s white water boats. That feature applies only to the Scout.
There are alot of pontoon boats out there, it can get really confusing. I don't want to go into too much detail because I will be selling a few different brands of these things soon and I don't want to come off like I am making a sales pitch.
I agree with you though, If you want a waderless boat get a drift boat. These things seem to me to be best used as a summer boat and should be walk through.
Bob, if you have time and are interested, I am trying to arrange to demo several brands of these things this summer, drop me a line if you want to try any of the new ones. The biyak is kind of interesting, I have only rowed it in still water though, I want to give it another try.

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