I knew I left something out. proof that ban works. like Bruce said look at the west coast. and other states that did the same. we aren't the first state to try this. the proof is out there. Yes habitat is a major part of the puzzle but I really can't see it beeing as big as alot of people make it to be. look at the rivers that don't have the problems and where are the runs? I'm talking about the runs we had at the turn of the centry. You look at the numbers of fish harvested and you can't doubt where they went. you look at the harvest numbers from then untill now and it is only abvious what hapend. OVER FISHING!!!!! a good book to read that has alot of facts in it is MOUNTAIN IN THE CLOUDS by BRUCE BROWN.read it and you will have an entire new outlook of where they went. untill I boil over agian dcrzfitter