Scaly, read my post more carefully. I quoted from the letter almost more verbatim and I wasn't trying to make an argument one way or another. I was asking for information and opinions, of which many have been offered. That said, after talking with a lot of people who are current TU members, most of them are dang pissed off that TU funds were used to produce this document and several are thinking about cancelling their memberships. One of the things I admire is taking a stand on something. Seems like TU is taking the middle road. That's why our politicans for the must part suck, 'cause they don't have the intestinal fortitude to do one thing or another. You can't run with the hares and the hounds, an old Irish saying. Seems like TU's following the same kind of path, which rather disgusts me.