One thing I would add to this is on the knot strength of vanish. If you tie a knot with dry line ,it's really weak. They say to wet the line and use a trilene knot. Wetting the line helps, but I have found that putting shrimp smelly jelly on it ,or the flavor of your choice, gets the knot strength up there with maxima. I did some testing with a scale to check this. Lubricating the line is a bit of a hassle but it seems to work. When the knot is tightened dry, the friction scores the line. Buy the way, the best knot strength between Vanish, Maxima ultragreen and Gamikatsu,was Gamikatsu line.