Yah it sucks. Oregon makes ya buy a lic. 141.00 to apply for elk. Drew this year finally. Took 5 years. As for wash. I didn't feel the pain this year. All the years I bought my sons stuff is paying off. While was in Ak my son bought all my stuff. Put me in the drawings, and put some kind of spell on it. I drew a cow tag, and a extra deer tag, and the bull tag in Oregon. Lucky year for me.