Noodle- I would tend to agree if I did not have pictures of five fish caught in less than six hours ranging from 14 - 22 lbs. If I wasn't confident that it really was me with over 20 steelies in the boat over a weekend, you would be right. Those times were not, however on the COW but rather on the clearwater in ID. Funny, the fish move 500 miles across 8 dams to get there and more fish get through.......