Hey Noodle Rodder, if you have it all figured out, fill us in. I have been doing this for 24 years now, and I learn something everytime I go fishing. If you don't, somethings wrong. It's all trial and error, and you get better with time and repetition. Duck was right, sometimes your just in a funk, and don't have the "feel" that you normally do. If you want to be-little a guy who is looking for some answers, hop off of this board, and go post on the steelhead site "wisconsin stream reports", you'll fit right in. The guys on this board are here to help wherever they can, so put a lid on it and listen. Merry Christmas.