Bob- While you were up there becoming a Dawg in the 80's I was guiding for springers just up the creek (Will.@O.C./Clack.- Tillamook for fall/winter)from where you grew up. L.O.? When you were in grade school there, my buddies & I would on rare occassions catch a steelhead out of the lower L.O.Creek near the park/Will.(don't think they nose in there anymore). Anyway, do you think Edgar M. was trying to say "Go Ducks"? - Steve ---------------------------------------------To Hohwaiian below: When I recently became a new participant on this Bb I would not have dreamed I'd be discussing racial sesativity- and wheather this is an appropriate forum or not, I will take an opportunity to maybe create a better understanding- & hopefully some healing.- I think U may have answered your own Q about being unusually quite oversensative about harmless puns- lighten up! For ANYONE to take an obvious harmless pun such as "I got lei'd in Hawaii" as meaningful is beyond oversensative to chip on your shoulder wrongfully defensive- and about as silly as to take your nickname, Hohwaiian, as to mean that U are suggesting that the 50th state of my country is one big whorehouse! How dare U (jk- means just kidding).- I also think that Native Americans were the first to call themselves "braves" & "Redskins"- thus shouldn't be taken as derogatory. They used "paleface" for that. Would I be upset if an all Indian team called themselves the Forks Palefaces? Maybe a little- but only because of obvious derisiveness (unlike the Braves), but I wouldn't make it worse by making a big deal of it- I'd probably laugh w/ amusement & let it go... Sometimes the absurdity of it all makes me lol. As for the word "niggers", that was conjured up in the south as an obvious racial slure to belittle African Americans. That is entirely different and is inappropiate. Although I find it revealing about the human condition that many Blacks think little of it when one of their race use that "N" word toward each other.- If oversensitivity & absurd demand for "political correctness" continue to grow in this country I believe it has more potential to divide rather than unite us. I don't want it to get to the point that should I say to my neighbor kid at the plate (playing baseball) "good eye!"... "oops, I meant good eyes". LIGHTEN UP!! - Steve-- P.S.- I came to this forum with a changed attitude about fishing. I now am ready to "give it up" concerning "guide's secrets" to help any novices learn this great recreation. How about we talk fishing now? --------- Hohwaiian- Thanks for your 3/4/00 comeback. I now think U are caring rather than oversensative; & have more likenesses than differences w/ me. Yay for the value of communication! Tight lines, Steve


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