L, I've done real good w/ em. I use either cooked cocktail shrimp or the smaller raw prawm tails. I feed em over the hook point, around the bend, & secure it w/ the egg loop. Can either float fish or driftfish.~~~ LB- Your post rings a bell...oh ya, Tiny Johnson the P.E. shower boy. Some guys used to call him "shrimp balls". Young dudes can be cruel.