I think that the best advice so far is sneek up on the fish. The rivers I fished last year for fall fish were small and if the fish saw you first you were going to have a hard time catching them. My son will not agree with mehe would sight fish for them. Chrome corkie yellow yarn some eggs then he would cast and drift it down and bump them in the nose. I am not sure who caught more fish but the ones I caught were brighter.

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