say i know some one that has a 14 or 16 foot lund in his back yard with a 12 hr motor, thats right a 12 hr on it. his kids have gone off to school and does not use it any more. he says it is in real good shape done up on the inside and repainted. let me know if you are interested and i will talk to him. i would consider it but i already own a smokercraft. ray j