Hey Andy.. I always enjoy reading all of your posts and replys. While I agree that some real meatheads have started to try and make it into something its not, I can see that some of the people who I think actually know something about fishing have replyed to this post. Stick around duder.. Young guys like you that care are not a dime a dozen. We don't use rags and I don't want any pre rigged slinkies but do consider your input quite valid. I'm sure most agree.