timber man , I don`t have a complaint about the quality of the rods , its the warranty i have a problem with . Why am i paying the bucks for a Loomis , when i can pay half the price for Lamiglas , which is ABOUT the same quality and have no problems getting it replaced , NO QUESTIONS ASKED ... I thought when i was spending that kind of cash i was getting some kind of warranty . Before Shimano came into the picture , i didn`t have any problems . send it in get it back no problem . Rods brake i know that , and i know that you have to baby Loomis rods . But for money thay ain`t worth it .