Originally Posted By: Carcassman
And, regarding habitat, until we deal with actually dealing with human population on a local, state, national, and international basis the wild resources will lose. Just how well are wild native salmonids doing in most of Europe, Asia, and the Eastern coast of North America? If you're unsure, read Dave Montgomery's "King of Fish".

A pretty good description of the state of many populations, however, he misses really badly when he describes how healthy and robust the Chinook run is in the Nisqually River. He somehow managed to miss the fact that all those thousands of fish are from the tribal hatcheries.