hey, thanks for the info, i dont have a boat so you'll pry not see me out there, but heck man, if i could i would be out there amongst the boats..i am also wondering, have ya seen more jacks than big ones caught? and does it look like its gonna be a nice run this year heading up the puyallup..i have a bit of salt water gear, but never use it..most likely never will..do you ever fish the puyallup when the sound is done? maybe i will see ya down there..and how long does it take to get a 20 pounder in out there? and what pound test you using..well thanks for everything.. **** schitzo****