thank ya marty and brian, i can see the fish on the bank allready..wooohooo..im stoked..thanks for all the info..its legal to fish 2 lures at once in every river? well, thanks again..it means alot to me, since ive been tryin the wiggle wart but withno success and was wondering if it was becuz of my lenghth of leader not gettin it down close to the bottom.. ***schitzo***