Aerofly I agree with you about needing a director who is willing to "just say no" to the Natives and sport/commercial fishermen if there is even a question about the size of a run..I have no problem not fishing if we are all in the same shoes.. Now my ***** towards the WDFW. It never ceases to amaze me when one of our "educated" bios. make decisions based off of expectations rather then real numbers. I see the same sort of thing on the hunting side all the time. They'll give out tags based on some numbers that aren't even close(I could give lots of examples).Good clean common sense could go along ways in managing our fish and wildlife. Yet these people in power will choose to use "models" to determine when and how much we are going to hunt and fish. My experience with the dept. has usually left me with the feeling that my ideas will not work because my degree is not in the field of wildlife management. Personally I think they are just a bunch of bookworm puppets that have no real idea what is actually going on out there in the real world!!!!