Originally Posted By: RICH G
Bundy and his group of ranchers went there to force due process of their officially submitted complaints, which were never even acknowledged. They took up arms in a peaceful demonstration on federal property in order to force the media and governments hand. These men never viewed themselves as criminals or fugitives, they had given local law enforcement the benefit of the doubt and were willing to trust them and the process. By them taking up arms in a group they were only exercising the only constitutional right which was left at their disposal. They never did anything violent.

Then still the government would not even acknowledge their complaints. Would not even discuss it like there was no standing or no constitution for that matter.

Then the worst possible thing happened, the cops used the ranchers trust against them and tricked Them into going to a meeting, set up an ambush and tried to affect an arrest on people who did not think they were criminals.

So then the guy killed gets scared and hits the gas, the cops chase after and fire shots related to nonviolent charges. When he gets out of te vehicle he is obviously afraid and has his hands up. It looks as if he is shot with small arms from the front and lowers his hands in reaction to being shot then the other trooper shoots him in the back wit a shotgun and he goes down.

Next thing that happeneds is the cops go and arrest both independent media outlets on identical obstruction charges. Never mind the media is the only profession protected by the constitution.

So as soon as they dismantle the organization they get control of the outflow of information as the corporate media won't bite the hand that feeds them so they will report what they are told.

Law Enforcement had one shot at this and they failed miserably, they faild to protect these men's constitutional and civil rights and helped deny them due process.

These patriots are not your inner city minorities on welfare That generally don't even know what they are protesting about in Baltimore or Furguson. These are independent Americans That believe in te constitution a d their independence, By now as far as they are concerned they watched the police murder Their spokesperson in cold blood without even acknowledging their complaint.

This is bad juju....... They will never trust another cop again. What we have seen so far is only the first chapter.

None of this ever needed to happen.



Rich, If that is true why the silence from the Bundys?

1. Their lawyer has been in contact with them.

2. The lawyer has issued statements from the Bundys about standing down directed to the other followers at the refuge.

3. The lawyer didn't say anything about wrongful death by cops.

4. The Bundys have nothing to gain by keeping silent about what really went down since they were ready to die for their cause anyway, so they would seem to be open to telling the truth about what happened.

Case closed.