Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02
Lots of shades of ancient Rome in our country these days, and not the admirable ones. If what Rich G tells us doesn't scare you, that definitely should. Raping children was popular among the Roman elite. I think the question of how far we are from legalizing and even celebrating pedophilia is a pertinent one to start asking at this point.

When does it stop? I'm a fairly liberal person in most respects, but the importance being placed on these issues by our government really concerns me. (I think they're doing this to keep our minds off topics they SHOULD be addressing and aren't but that's for a different thread.)

A democracy is supposed to work in the interest of the majority. There's a growing number of people who have completely lost their identity. That's sad, but it doesn't mean the rest of us (the vast majority) should be forced to live like we have lost ours.

When you claim to stand for everything, you truly stand for nothing. We're getting dangerously close, IMO.


What does some transgendered person have to do with your identity? Are you unsure if you should get reassigned?

Jesus - your post is ridiculous. Transgender people are equivalent to pedophiles? On what planet?

The United States is not a democracy, and our Constitution provides for the rights of everyone, not only the majority.

Rome fell because of political corruption, not pedophilia.


This times ten zillions.

Fish on...

Todd


Alright, alright. I fully expected some less than positive feedback on that post. That said, while we disagree about the potential implications of the apparent trend, we seem to agree that political corruption led to the fall of Rome. Do you deny that our own government is becoming increasingly corrupt? Dan said as much in his next post....

I DID NOT say that transgender people were equivalent to pedophiles. That pedophilia would be a more advanced deviation from what most generally think of as acceptable behavior than a transgender lifestyle was an important part of my argument.

As regards the relationship between sex and identity, Dan, I'd ask you what is the FIRST thing you identify about a new person you meet? I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect that once you've determined they're human, your next distinction is male or female. If that's right, don't you think sex is at least very nearly the ultimate aspect of a person's identity?

I should also clarify for you that it's not my identity I'm concerned about. I know what I am, and while I'm far from perfect, I'm comfortable in my own skin (the skin I was born in). If somebody else wants to be different, I'm cool with that, but I don't think our government should make laws that placate them just because they're different. If there were any assurance only transgender people would be using opposite sex bathrooms, I'd be a lot less concerned. Call me old fashioned, but I don't want my daughters sharing a bathroom with potential pedophiles. Our government just made a law that makes that a real possibility, if not an eventuality. I'm not pleased. Sorry.

One last thing: I agree that civil rights are for all. Laws may not benefit all people, but if we're doing it right, they should benefit the majority. If the majority thinks this stuff is okay, I guess this was a good law....