keta, i made the comment about it suckin, cuz ive been fishing ande and trilene for awhile now, and i jus dont see it comparing to it.. it has been giving me trouble as in twisting up on me (and yes i use a swivel) i use it on my shimano spinning reel, maybe it works better on a bait caster? so if i offended ya..lol..i opologize..but it jus dont cut it for me, thats why i made the comment ***schitzo***