Went it drops I will of course give it another go. I take the dog down to fetch sticks all the time & rain or no about mid sept there's a king or 2 rolling in their same old spots, this year nada. We have had enough luck in the past right after October 1 on coho to convince ourselves to to take the poles down but even with the little rain we had before the last deluge, we saw nothing & had no bites for 2 + weeks of effort ... Hopefully the last gully washer forced the nets out & then we can see if there really are any fish.