There's always a different way to look at the data. What I see is that the mixed stock saltwater fishery from both the Commercials (including Indians and charters) and sports fishermen has a pretty significant impact. What makes it tough is that I'm definitely of the belief that hatchery fish must die. Seeing that the hatchery fish came back strongly does not necessarily mean that the wild fish came back strongly. Although just as likely it does mean that they came back in good numbers. If that's the case, I would gladly trade the mixed stock saltwater fishery for more fish on the beds. The fundamental conundrum of Maximum Sustained Harvest versus Maximum Sustained Yield.