Lars would not be very happy with numbers like that.

A little known bit of information about Lars is that he was a front-line salmon manager for a while. So, he's familiar with the pressures of day to day managing back in the day when you managed every day.

Plus, as the developer of many of the models that produce pNOB and pHOS and so on he knows the details.

These aren't conservation metrics but they do allow fisheries and can try and fuzz the issue enough to make folks think they're getting it done.