#1059449 - 04/07/22 04:37 PM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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More dark side prospects (if that still existed).
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#1059450 - 04/07/22 08:53 PM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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#1059451 - 04/07/22 09:13 PM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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There is no such thing as wild fish anymore. Their all hatchery fish bro. Probably strays from the Hoodsport hatchery. I'm afraid that you have it backwards bro. The Hoodsport hatchery population was derived from wild fish from the Dungeness and Dosewallips Rivers in 1953. NOAA Technical Memorandum, NMFS-NWFSC-25..., February 1996
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#1059453 - 04/08/22 06:45 AM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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River Nutrients
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Any fish that is spawned in the wild is a wild fish. Native fish are wild fish that evolved in that system. We have plenty of wild fish, but few native.
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#1059456 - 04/08/22 07:50 AM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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River Nutrients
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There are some native runs around. Chehalis Springers are one and some late Coho in certain streams.
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#1059461 - 04/08/22 09:48 AM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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River Nutrients
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Not in recent times but not sure about way back. Lots of things went on last century and example is 5 million Fall Chinook eggs transferred from old Schafer Park hatchery to upper Chehalis Hatchery and they perished when the hatchery had a problem. So this, normal timed Coho, Chum, and Fall Chinook have had stocks moved all over and it is the smaller runs like Springers and Late Coho that remained untouched. The Bingham Late Coho are not the same as the native late Coho that used to be mostly late Dec and Jan returning fish. You just about have to be an historian to track this stuff.
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#1059463 - 04/08/22 10:23 AM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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Not in recent times but not sure about way back. Lots of things went on last century and example is 5 million Fall Chinook eggs transferred from old Schafer Park hatchery to upper Chehalis Hatchery and they perished when the hatchery had a problem. So this, normal timed Coho, Chum, and Fall Chinook have had stocks moved all over and it is the smaller runs like Springers and Late Coho that remained untouched. The Bingham Late Coho are not the same as the native late Coho that used to be mostly late Dec and Jan returning fish. You just about have to be an historian to track this stuff. Tell me about it. Coming in to a lot of this knowledge over the last couple years I feel I feel in over my head. Trying to soak up as much as possible especially for the Grays Harbor region. Seems like every day I find new historical records. That said, feel free to PM me any historical papers you feel like sharing.
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#1059465 - 04/08/22 11:36 AM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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River Nutrients
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Also, just because hatchery fish were stocked in watershed, or strays there, does not (necessarily) mean the native genome was changed. Selection weeds out the maladapted. Except in humans, where we elect them.
I and reading about a 40 year study the Grants did on Galapagos Finches on on tiny island. Lots happened over 40 years. New species were evened, hybridization, and so on. One finding, though, was that one species present in year 40 was demonstrably different from what it was in year 0. Natural processes, including evolution, changed them.
I suspect that the only place where you might have the same native fish as you had 200 years ago is in a watershed untouched by humans or natural change in climate.
Life out there is a heck of a lot more complex and varied than we want to believe.
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#1059476 - 04/09/22 09:57 AM
Re: Targeting pinks in Dosewallips is illegal
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Smolt
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There is a lot of even year pinks that return their. I could probably score some killer footage there this year bro!
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