#1061670 - 03/14/23 12:46 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
[Re: eswan]
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River Nutrients
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My mentor on fly fishing and tieing, Jim Garrett, had a small framed Royal Coachman back by on of those old fishing maps. He typed on it there and when he caught the fish; his first on a fly.
I think that Summers may be more vulnerable to flies as they are known to feed while in freshwater. The only actual feeding I am aware of with Winters in post-spawn gorging. One year we had a large Carpenter Ant emergence and many of the kelts, especially females , were plugged with ants. They were also in very good shape as they were reasonably silvery and had tight bellies. Always thought a nice dry fished in May would attract them.
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#1061671 - 03/14/23 01:14 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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Walked up to the holding pond on the Sol Duc one time and noticed it was plugged with summer coho. Included with them were two summer run steelhead. I had some shrimp on me so I tossed one in the pond. One of the summer run tore through the silvers and engulfed it. I tossed in another and watched the second one do the same thing. Any question about summer runs feeding was answered then and there. They acted as if they were starving from being trapped in the pond.
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#1061672 - 03/14/23 03:40 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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They weren't exactly "trapped" in the pond. For a while, WDF ran a summer steelhead program (under the table). They reared the steelhead and coho in the same raceway and got nice returns. WDG quashed the program when they found out about it.
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#1061673 - 03/14/23 04:11 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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They weren't exactly "trapped" in the pond. For a while, WDF ran a summer steelhead program (under the table). They reared the steelhead and coho in the same raceway and got nice returns. WDG quashed the program when they found out about it. That's what we need now! All HM hear this! Raise em and dump em.
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#1061704 - Today at 12:30 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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Loc: Carkeek Park
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Starting to see some chum fry now. Not a ton yet. They released 30K into the creek below my house last night. My buddy who lives on the canal has been doing well using fry patterns, even though he isn’t seeing a lot of them. It will only get better. SF
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#1061706 - Today at 01:17 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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This seems awfully late for chum fry. I remember seeing a few in late December (summers) but I guess they went pretty strong into April. Seemed the creeks I was on, that had summers, saw most of them gone to salt by March.
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#1061707 - Today at 01:48 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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King of the Beach
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It was pretty cool last night seeing how quickly the fry headed downstream after the release. Can’t say I’ve ever seen chum fry in December over all the years I’ve fished the canal including areas near summer chum streams. Might be because I’m not looking for them at that time of the year. Like everything, things vary year to year. Mid to late March has always been the beginning of seeing decent numbers of fry and the fish attacking them. Based on what I’ve seen so far this year and the lack of post spawn fish, peak cutthroat spawning hasn’t happened quite yet. At least in the areas I like to fish. Some years you run into a good number of post spawn fish in late January. SF
Edited by stonefish (Today at 02:06 PM)
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#1061708 - Today at 02:10 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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As I thought about it more, or my memory defogged, the early fry were from summer chum. Since we ran traps and electrofished we'd have seen them and it seemed by March that stock had cleared. But, the normal-timed fish I worked with emerged in March/April/early May. We'd collect them during the day and release at night. The SRCT would basically open their mouths at the outfall pipe........Those cutties also clobbered coho smolts.
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#1061710 - Today at 02:23 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
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Loc: Carkeek Park
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As I thought about it more, or my memory defogged, the early fry were from summer chum. Since we ran traps and electrofished we'd have seen them and it seemed by March that stock had cleared. But, the normal-timed fish I worked with emerged in March/April/early May. We'd collect them during the day and release at night. The SRCT would basically open their mouths at the outfall pipe........Those cutties also clobbered coho smolts. Cutts love pink fry as well, but we'll have to wait until next spring for that. Just curious, what was the earliest date that you witnessed summer chum actually spawning? It is always fun to stop by the counting station at the end of a day of cutt fishing to see how many summer chum have been counted. This year it was about 5,300+. Since they count 8/15 to 10/15, it seems like there might be some overlap at the end with late summer / early fall fish but I'm not really sure. SF
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#1061712 - Today at 04:44 PM
Re: anybody still fish?
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Early September, around Labor Day. But I think that has probably shifted some in last decades (I was there 76-79) as drought/low flows dry things up more. I think the early Fall fish, like Kennedy Creek, later in October. But, drying Falls probably compresses timing.
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