#1065443 - 01/28/25 04:54 PM
Re: A change in perspective
[Re: Carcassman]
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One reason why Nisqually steelhead are down is the loss of Muck Creek. With its warmer water and high productivity it produced a lot of smolts, many of which were age-1. That component is gone, as is Muck Creek. What's wrong with Muck Creek? Seems at on time, study's and preservation plans were in order. https://yosemite.epa.gov/oa/eab_web_docket.nsf/Attachments%20By%20ParentFilingId/4A6FBF55AC3670C085257C6200537646/$FILE/Att%209%20%20Muck%20Creek%20Basin%20Plan.pdf
Edited by RUNnGUN (01/28/25 04:56 PM)
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#1065444 - 01/28/25 05:37 PM
Re: A change in perspective
[Re: I'm Still RichG]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7719
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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My understanding it that it now goes intermittent in summer, is choked with weeds (Reed Canary Grass?) and is simply no longer steelhead habitat. If it flows in the winter it may still serve chum.
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#1065459 - 01/29/25 08:57 AM
Re: A change in perspective
[Re: 28 Gage]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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“ Rich, I don't think we can have this conversation until you take and get a passing grade in: Biology 101 - 103 Ecology 300 Physics 101 - 103 Hydraulics 300 “
Only the edyoumakated may speak now. Hey, don't take it personally. It's just that in RichG's case, his perspective and view of how the ecological world works is so ding bat fvckin' crazy that no intelligent conversation is possible. I shouldn't even try.
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#1065473 - 01/29/25 06:05 PM
Re: A change in perspective
[Re: I'm Still RichG]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3758
Loc: Sheltona Beach
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I agree with the idea to minimize the allowed impact in the feeding grounds. Contemporary conditions are man made. This years' chum run shows that reduced impact.
We need to find a way out of the numbers games played. Have the more fecund fishes return and spawn in home waters. Reduce man made impacts in the estuary. Cormorants, pinnipeds, and terns all have increased by the way we have altered the habitat.
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#1065483 - 01/31/25 09:31 AM
Re: A change in perspective
[Re: I'm Still RichG]
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Registered: 03/06/01
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Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
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Salmo, try not to disparage stupid people. While it is easy and sometimes entertaining, they outnumber smart people by a good measure, and the world needs them to vote for smart things which benefit humanity, the natural environment and the living things with which we share the planet, or else we'll only get stupid things that run contrary to those goals. Examples abound, fb
Edited by fishbadger (01/31/25 09:53 AM)
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#1065724 - 03/19/25 12:47 PM
Re: A change in perspective
[Re: Salmo g.]
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13951
Loc: Mitulaville
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It's just that in RichG's case, his perspective and view of how the ecological world works is so ding bat fvckin' crazy that no intelligent conversation is possible. I shouldn't even try. But, yet you did! What does that say about you? 
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#1065728 - 03/19/25 01:15 PM
Re: A change in perspective
[Re: I'm Still RichG]
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 4571
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I would like the mods to check and see if Salmo and Rich are actually posting from the same IP.
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