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#147391 - 03/31/02 11:48 PM Kwikfish hooks
fishingtoo Offline
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Registered: 04/08/01
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Fished with a guide out of Cathlamet Friday. We had at least a dozen hits on kwikfish, with only two getting into the boat (two other fish landed on trolled herring). No fish lost ruing sustained fight, just not hooking up to begin with (yes, we were waiting for the full take down & run out before trying to set hook). Guide was using factory treble hooks, & was sharpening them. I asked him to rig up with siwash hooks but he did not believe in them. So trying previous advise gained from Silver Hilton on this BB, I switched my own kwikies SAt & Sun to 3-0 siwash attached to the split ring with a barrel swivel.
(SH actually recommended eliminating the split ring entirely & attach barrel swivel to lure eyes after prying them open but I got lazy as felt was achiving the same basic strategy)
Hook-up percentages increased dramatically after doing this & other boats near me who also were using siwash instead of treble hooks were also having high % success with them. Thanks again Silver Hilton for the good advice!
The guide gave defintly put us on the fish, we were getting many more hits/take downs than most, but we would have more fish in the freezer if he were willing to change hook styles.

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#147392 - 04/01/02 12:25 AM Re: Kwikfish hooks
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Sweetness. Glad I could be of some help. Did you offset the points?
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#147393 - 04/01/02 11:45 AM Re: Kwikfish hooks
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Registered: 03/27/02
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I've read about siwash on Kwikfish before but can't remember exactly how to set the hooks up. Do you use a bead chain on the front hook? On a K15 does it matter whether you use a 3/0 or 4/0?

I love siwash and use them on all my spinners so I can trail a prawn or a herring strip. Just wish the manufacturers would sell them all that way.
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#147394 - 04/01/02 12:01 PM Re: Kwikfish hooks
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Check the Kwikfish thread here http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008461

It's currently back on page four. Lot's of good discussion on hooks
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#147395 - 04/01/02 02:27 PM Re: Kwikfish hooks
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Registered: 02/08/00
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RT has been advocating removing the factory hooks and replacing them with one treble hook off a four bead chain to the belly screw. He advises using a foam floatant to keep the hook "in the zone"
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#147396 - 04/01/02 02:31 PM Re: Kwikfish hooks
dawhunt Offline
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Registered: 01/16/00
Posts: 179
Loc: Washougal
I've been useing 4/0 gammi's or owener hooks on a
4 bead swivel chain on the middle and opening the eye and putting a swivel and snap ring with a 4/0 hook on the tail.I've never lost a fish with this setup.The reason I'm useing the hooks I do instead of Siwash is their already bent and mostly just because thats what I use and I've NEVER lost a fish. smile
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#147397 - 04/01/02 08:35 PM Re: Kwikfish hooks
fishingtoo Offline
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Registered: 04/08/01
Posts: 101
There is obviously more than one way to skin this subject. My two cents is that the important parts are: first, replace the trebles with siwash hooks, and second, use a swivel so siwash will balance out & fish doesn't have leverage against the plug. Other variations i.e. 3-0 vs 4-0, bead chain vs barrel swivel, bent out siwash vs straight siwash...all problably matter insignificantly compared to changing the hooks out to begin with. MHO

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