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#174504 - 05/10/06 08:37 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Wailuku Offline
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Registered: 05/02/04
Posts: 393
Loc: Portland
At least we can all agree that Oregonian is an unabashed bigot!

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#174505 - 05/10/06 08:38 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
I suppose it is discrimination that a woman doesn't have a penis and a man does ?

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#174507 - 05/10/06 09:07 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
Well then are men and women exactly the same or not ? If not, what are the differences ?


By the way, I looked in Webster's New Secondary School Dictionary, I found the definition of bigot and bigotry, and I found the definition of marry and marriage, but there was no entry for homosexual.........that's interesting isn't it ?

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#174508 - 05/10/06 09:09 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
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I do hope you tell me about female breasts and there intended purpose.......

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#174510 - 05/10/06 09:15 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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To be defined as a bigot, I would have to be unreasonably attached to my own ideas or opinions, although I do know what I think, and believe it despite some rather obstinate attempts from the gallery here to sway me, my belief in my ideas/opinions is very much reasonable........

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#174511 - 05/10/06 09:20 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
AuntyM,

Is it a coincidence that every time I box your slippery self into answering a reasonable question who's only answer will prove my point to everything with multiple cells, you switch over to your adequate sense of humor and try to laugh it off rather than state the obvious answer ?

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#174513 - 05/10/06 09:21 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
Good one, I rest..........

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#174516 - 05/10/06 09:28 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
What part of left field are you from anyway ?

The ONLY "rights" I have spoken against are special "rights" gay people are trying to have printed up just for them, which I had never even heard of until the Clintons drug the gays out of the closet in a desperate attempt at getting elected.


Breasts, I have some familiarity with their recreational capacity..........I asked you about their biological purpose, I guess you thought it was a prompt for a little comic relief.....

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#174517 - 05/10/06 09:49 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
O,

You keep bringing up "special rights". Apparently, you're just going to ignore the list of rights that blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Latinos, Mormons, Bhuddists, and women have that gays do not, and concentrate solely on the issue of gay marriage.

Convenient, from your standpoint, I guess, but how is one supposed to argue a point with you, when you don't want to address the bulk of the conversation.

If your boss can walk in and say "Jim you're fired. Because you're a Christian." and get away with it, something is wrong. Just like it's wrong if he were to walk in and say "Jim you're fired. Because you're gay." In my opinion, Jim should be protected in either case provided he's doing his job.

You disagree?
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I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#174519 - 05/10/06 10:32 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Rory Bellows Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 1557
Loc: Third stone from the sun
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan S.:
O,

You keep bringing up "special rights". Apparently, you're just going to ignore the list of rights that blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Latinos, Mormons, Bhuddists, and women have that gays do not, and concentrate solely on the issue of gay marriage.

Convenient, from your standpoint, I guess, but how is one supposed to argue a point with you, when you don't want to address the bulk of the conversation.

If your boss can walk in and say "Jim you're fired. Because you're a Christian." and get away with it, something is wrong. Just like it's wrong if he were to walk in and say "Jim you're fired. Because you're gay." In my opinion, Jim should be protected in either case provided he's doing his job.

You disagree?
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zip You can't fire, not hire, house or lend to someone in this state (Washington) soley because they're a homosexual or lesbian.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/257432_gayrights28.html

So to keep bringing that (employment) up or comparing them (homosexuals and lesbians) to a race, religion or gender whose prospective employment needs to be protected is a red herring.
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#174520 - 05/10/06 11:02 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Wailuku Offline
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Registered: 05/02/04
Posts: 393
Loc: Portland
Again, I pose the question. What impact on YOUR life does recognizing homosexual marriages have? How can it possibly diminish the "sanctity" of your marriage?

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#174521 - 05/10/06 11:02 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 418
Loc: port ludlow
"I think that the individual mothers who choose to work instead raise their kids are making a horrible mistake which effects not only them and their kids, but the rest of society as well."

You used the word women, that's why we call you a bigot. Pretty simple one to start, just tell me is any of this gets too confusing for you or if I'm going too fast.

"As far as the homos go, I REALLY don't care one way or the other what they do, or why, but there is no reason to give them special treatment just for being/acting like a freak"

Definition of Freak: n. A person, animal or plant of abnormal shape or form.

Do you see the enormous contradiction of you own statement? I think stump humping homophobes are freaks, but I'm not trying to take your rights away.

"To be defined as a bigot, I would have to be unreasonably attached to my own ideas or opinions, although I do know what I think, and believe it despite some rather obstinate attempts from the gallery here to sway me, my belief in my ideas/opinions is very much reasonable........ "

I think that about 99 out of 100 people here see that you actually are a perfect match for the description of a bigot, even by your own terms.

"We have Natives gillnetting wild fish"

Again with the Indians, good god. So it's allright for the commercial fisherman to overfish the Columbia, pretty much without penalty (we'll just take them out of the sportos' quota and everyone is happy, Right).. But as soon as a Native jumps in the river, ALL THE SALMON ARE GONNA DIE!!!.......Bigot. I have never once seen you complain about the commercial fishermen, and you claimed to have been one, bigot.

Bigot, bigot, bigot, bigot, white trash bigot. It's what you are, it's not name calling, so just accept it and move on already. Yes, you are exceptionally good at being a bigot. You are even better at being so clueless as to what a bigot is when everyone around you obviously understands that you are just simply a bigot.

We get what you are saying: 1) women should stay at homes with the children, no matter what, because it hurts everyone in society, including you, who has no children and because they are women. 2) Gays don't deserve to be treated like anyone else because they are freaks and besides that, they are gay, 3) Natives took away every last resource on the face of the earth when they realized that white men just wanted to share because that's what Natives do, take things from white men. 4) You're a bigot.
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#174522 - 05/10/06 11:20 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Last month the White House removed information from government Web sites about sexual orientation discrimination in the workplace. That's because federal employees can now be fired for being homosexual. On Feb. 23 Washington Post columnist Steven Barr reported that references to sexual orientation discrimination were removed from Federal employment complaint forms posted on agency Web sites. At the time, President Bush's new appointee to head the Office of Special Counsel, Scott Bloch, said the policy was under review.

Last week, Bloch issued his brief on the matter. According to Bloch, federal employees will now "have no recourse if they are fired or demoted simply for being gay."

In 1980, the federal government ruled that discrimination based on sexual orientation is prohibited under the 1978 Civil Service Reform Act, which covers all conduct that does not "adversely affect" work performance. Bloch, however, believes that conduct based on sexual orientation is not the same as sexual orientation itself. In his twisted reading of the 1978 act -- an act intended to protect employees and job applicants from prejudice in the workplace unrelated to their job performance -- Bloch draws a distinction between an individual's conduct as a gay or lesbian, and his or her status as a gay or lesbian. As he told the Federal Times last week, "People confuse conduct and sexual orientation as the same thing, and I don't think they are." So while you can't be fired for bringing your same-sex partner to the office picnic, you can be fired for being gay.
Better bring your Power Pro for that red herring, Rory.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#174523 - 05/10/06 11:30 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
So at no point in your little game is anyone going to come up with an answer for even one of my questions ?

In case anyone missed some of my personal info which I have so generously shared previously......I am happily married to my first and only wife, she is the mother of my only two children, and I provide our very modest income by cutting timber.

Calling me a bigot repeatedly is silly, and a very weak position to take in an arguement where even a single logical point could close the deal.


I have not proposed taking any rights away from anyone

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#174524 - 05/10/06 11:37 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 418
Loc: port ludlow
You're dumber than a bucket of hair.
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#174525 - 05/10/06 11:47 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 418
Loc: port ludlow
That's the only answer you need to know and it applies to every other question you ever ask.
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#174526 - 05/10/06 11:52 PM Re: GOP Heroes
sardonicus Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 961
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Oregonian, surely by now you realize that when the issue hits a dead end. Or the local intelligentsia runs out of scintillating comments the game turns into name calling and insults. I hope you are not taking time away from your fine wife and family to spar with the local pulp lumber.

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#174527 - 05/10/06 11:53 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
I guess as long as this gay marriage business is just so many peoples wet dream, no harm done.

It is comforting to know there are still a few things that haven't been compromized in this day and age.......

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#174528 - 05/10/06 11:58 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 418
Loc: port ludlow
See, still dumb, you hopeless.
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#174529 - 05/10/06 11:59 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
During a lull in the action here I took my kids out for a quick boat ride, the daughter helped a baby goose out from a hole in some rocks, she was quite excited and proud of that.

We chased an osprey up the lake trying to decide what kind of fish it was eating, the consensus is largemouth bass.

It was great, there was one MAN fishing from the dock, no WOMEN, BLACKS, or GAYS to be seen !
<grin>
<shaking head>

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