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#222766 - 12/16/03 11:05 PM Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Plunker Offline
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Registered: 04/01/00
Posts: 511
Loc: Skagit Valley
For this winters returns of two salt fish:

River or system - No. of Plants
Blue Creek - 501,600
Bogachiel River - 91,000
Calawah River - 61,000
Canyon Creek (Snoh.) - 4,700
Carbon River (Voight Cr.) - 191,300
Cascade River - 200,000
Chehalis River Mainstem - 20,600
Chehalis River System - 334,000
Cispus River - 18,500
Clallam River - 5,000
Coweeman River - 19,800
Cowlitz River Mainstem - 218,500
Cowlitz River System - 758,400
Deschutes River - 25,000
Dosewallips River - 12,500
Duckabush River - 10,000
Dungeness River - 10,250
Elk River - 5,000
Elochoman River - 97,800
Elwha River - 151,700
Gobar Creek - 83,400
Goodman Creek - 20,000
Grays River, West Fork - 41,000
Green River (King Co.) - 102,200
Hoh River - 118,900
Hoko River - 20,000
Hoquiam River, East Fork - 20,000
Humptulips River - 81,300
Johns River - 20,000
Kalama River System - 83,400
Lewis East Fork - 90,600
Lewis North Fork - 102,600
Lewis River System - 193,200
Lyre River - 25,000
Morse Creek - 5,000
Naselle River - 30,300
Newaukum River - 10,050
Nooksack River - 34,800
North Nemah River - 6,900
North River - 10,000
Pilchuck River (Snoh.) - 25,500
Puyallup River System - 211,300
Pysht River - 10,000
Quillayute River System - 219,000
Quinault River - 373,500
Raging River - 10,000
Sail River - 5,400
Salmon Creek (Clark Co.) - 20,500
Salmon R. (Jefferson Co.) - 153,000
Satsop River, East Fork - 57,600
Sauk River - 21,200
Sekiu River - 10,700
Skagit River Mainstem - 200,000
Skagit River System - 421,200
Skokomish River - 68,400
Skookumchuck River - 75,000
Skykomish River - 133,400
Skykomish River, N. Fork - 15,150
Smith Creek - 10,000
Snohomish River System - 423,350
Snoqualmie River - 165,500
Sol Duc River - 67,000
Sooes River - 180,000
Stillaguamish North Fork - 118,200
Stillaguamish R. Mainstem - 15,700
Stillaguamish River System - 133,900
Sultan River - 29,100
Tolt River - 20,000
Waatch River - 48,900
Wallace River - 20,000
Washougal North Fork - 25,400
Washougal River - 39,300
Washougal River System - 64,700
White (Stuck) River - 20,000
White Salmon River (Big) - 20,200
Willapa River - 51,800
Wynoochee River - 170,750
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#222767 - 12/17/03 01:07 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Rob Allen Offline
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Loc: Vancouver WA
name some rivers they didn't plant????

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#222768 - 12/17/03 03:30 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Plunker Offline
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Registered: 04/01/00
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Loc: Skagit Valley
OK!

Abernathy Creek
Asotin Creek
Coal Creek
Entiat River
Germany Creek
Hamilton Creek
Icicle Creek
Kennedy Creek
Mill Creek
Mosquito Creek
Pilchuck Creek
Rock Creek
Salmon Crk. (Lewis Co.)
Skamokawa Creek
Wind River
Wishkah River
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#222769 - 12/17/03 05:10 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
h2o Offline
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Best thread ever!

Thanks Plunker!

Did you find this online?

Linky?
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#222770 - 12/17/03 09:06 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
fishbreath Offline
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Registered: 01/21/00
Posts: 271
Loc: Bellingham,WA
You can find this all on the game departments main site.

I can't believe this year they actually made it available before the end of the season. Kudos to the game department !

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#222771 - 12/17/03 10:37 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
goharley Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 3188
Loc: U.S. Army
It is really good, but at the same time it's alarming. It's scary the number of fish planted compared to the number that return. Even on the rivers that aren't heavily netted the returns are weak.

We need to take a serious look at the habitat in addition to the over harvest, both commercial and recreational.
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#222772 - 12/17/03 10:58 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Mac Offline
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Registered: 03/21/99
Posts: 37
Loc: Olalla Wa.
What amazes me is the amount of fish planted in the Puyallup system. It's in the top five. Where are they all, I know the Indians take quite a few, but 215,000 thats a huge plant. That river should be a producer year after year and it's not even close, I DON'T GET IT

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#222773 - 12/17/03 03:18 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
eddie Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Valencia, Negros Oriental, Phi...
Mac, three words for you. Commencement Bay habitat.
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#222774 - 12/17/03 04:50 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Steel Slayer Offline
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Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 195
Loc: Olympia
Whats the percantage of these plants make it back as adults?

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#222775 - 12/17/03 05:46 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
JJ Offline
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Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 203
Loc: redmond, WA
Rob,

Now you are talking crazy. We should have hatchery fish in every system. At least that is what the state thinks.

I did see the small list of places that weren't planted. I see most of them have creek after them. Kind of disturbing. If I have my numbers right WA has more hatcheryies the any other state in the Union in a little over a hundred. Very sad if you sit and think about it.
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#222776 - 12/18/03 02:06 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Rob Allen Offline
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Registered: 05/10/03
Posts: 311
Loc: Vancouver WA
Abernathy creek is heavily planted with salmon.
And the Wind river also is very heavily planted with spring chinook..

Doesn't Kenedy creek have a chum hatchery?

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#222777 - 12/18/03 09:35 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
eddie Offline
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Loc: Valencia, Negros Oriental, Phi...
Rob, I may be wrong but I think Kennedy Creek is all wild for the chum.
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#222778 - 12/18/03 09:50 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
grandpa2 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
Looks like the Quinault is the big daddy. I wonder how many of those returning fish make it past the first mile of that river?
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#222779 - 12/18/03 10:57 AM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Eric Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3426
Kennedy creek USED to have a satellite chum hatchery years ago......way before it's fishery was discovered by the masses. It has since returned to wild production.

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#222780 - 12/18/03 12:21 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13630
Grandpa,

Look again. The Big Daddy is the Cowlitz, with over one million steelhead smolts planted. Unfortunately, I think a lot of those smolts don't even make it to Astoria alive, so the "effective" smolt release may be quite a bit smaller. Three years ago, the few wild steelhead returns to the Cowlitz had shown a 3 times higher smolt to adult survival than the hatchery release from the same cohort.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#222781 - 12/18/03 12:44 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
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Registered: 06/14/00
Posts: 1828
Loc: Toledo, Washington
Salmo

Can you even imagine how many of those "hatchery steelhead" would have also survived if they were raised in same pure, clean, diseased free waters as those so called "wild fish" where? The Cowlitz trout hatchery is nothing more than a sewer with rearing ponds and running water!

The hatchery fish are continually exposed to diseased waters, much of which is being puked out from the salmon hatchery above! Just think of how many more "hatchery steelhead" would survive if they had the same opportunity to live in the clean pure water, before they had to pass through the polluted waters below. It's one thing for fish to be healthy when it is released, but what are the olds, when the fish has been continually exposed to diseases such as C Shasta, and held in it until it is released?

Cowlitzfisherman
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#222782 - 12/19/03 12:00 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
MaxMad Offline
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Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 360
Loc: "the middle kingdom" aka Cheha...
funny there's no mention of the green (the one that dumps into the toutle) & no mention of the toutle
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#222783 - 12/19/03 03:07 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
MM,

I think that the Green (Lewis Co.) is only planted with summer fish...the list above reflects winter run plants.

Todd.
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#222784 - 12/19/03 03:13 PM Re: Steelhead Smolt Plants (winter '03-04)
Mr. Twister Offline
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Registered: 01/06/01
Posts: 345
Loc: wa
Quote:
Originally posted by Steel Slayer:
Whats the percantage of these plants make it back as adults?
Off the top of my head, its 1-3% for hatchery fish, 2-5% for wild fish.

Rob
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