#227295 - 01/11/04 11:20 AM
Commercials Win Springer Battle
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
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Commercial fishing won a big battle in the war over the Columbia River spinger allocation. At the last minute Oregon caved in to the commercials even though they were leaning towards favoring the sports catch all along. The WDFW, of course, will side with commercials as they always do. The end result will be more commercial netting and less sports opportunity on this popular fishery. Since the spring Chinook bring the highest prices for the commercials they can piggyback on the sensational fish farming scare of the past week to really promote "wild" fresh salmon. The NET result will be the possibility of another year of commercial catch rates going way over predictions and then sports seasons being curtailed due to the "emergency". The other NET result will be more killing of ESA listed fish including the fragile steelhead stocks. Funny isn't it how much attention was given to the study showing that farmed salmon are bad and how little attention the studies showing the potential and real harm to Columbia River stocks get. The argument made by the commercials was that they had to spend alot of money on the new tangle nets and they need a way to recoup that investment. Geez I spent a fortune on my fishing gear too but can't use that argument to get more time on the water. The commercial bias is alive and well and MUST be stopped. Get out to the North of Falcon meetings coming up and make it to as many WDFW commission meetings as possible. 
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#227296 - 01/11/04 01:56 PM
Re: Commercials Win Springer Battle
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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Grandpa:
I am ashamed to admit that I was not at the meetings. But from what I hear the 200 gill netters had waaay more representatives at the meeting that did the 500,000 sports fishers. (Okay I made that number up, but there are a ton more of us than them.) So why can’t we get better representation at the meetings? Probably because we all wait for someone else to do it. I know that’s what I have been doing. I hereby promise to be at some of the next meeting that happen after I get back from Mexico. Hope to see some of you there!
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#227301 - 01/13/04 01:54 AM
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The Renegade White Man
Registered: 02/16/00
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Loc: The Coast or the Keys !!!
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If someone can please post a schedule or e-mail me a schedule of when and where the meetings are I will sureley attend with anyone else who wants to go. Peace Superfly
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#227302 - 01/13/04 09:10 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 783
Loc: bullcanyon
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I think there is one in Olympia on Sat.
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#227304 - 01/13/04 07:37 PM
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Alevin
Registered: 01/12/04
Posts: 9
Loc: Woodinville
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#227305 - 01/13/04 10:55 PM
Re: Commercials Win Springer Battle
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 10/08/01
Posts: 1147
Loc: Out there, somewhere
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Please see my post in this thread for a quick easy way to send an e-mail to your legislator, asking him or her to put some pressure on the people making this decision. I have a link to the page that can get your person's e-mail address, and text that you can clip out and send them. Take you two minutes, tops. Please check it out.
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#227306 - 01/13/04 11:16 PM
Re: Commercials Win Springer Battle
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Spawner
Registered: 06/24/01
Posts: 685
Loc: Toledo Wa
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Just did it, thanks Silver,(although it took me considerably longer)Computer illiterate!!!
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#227307 - 01/13/04 11:26 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/01/00
Posts: 511
Loc: Skagit Valley
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Here is the link to the news release: Oregon Fish and Wildlife Commission News Release SALEM – The Oregon Fish and Wildlife Commission Friday supported splitting the allowable impacts to wild fish during this year's Columbia River spring chinook fisheries 40-50 percent to the commercial fishery and 50-60 percent to the sport fishery. Decisions on the 2004 Columbia spring chinook sport and commercial fisheries will be made Feb. 5 in Oregon City by the states of Oregon and Washington meeting as the Columbia River Compact. The first harvest is expected to begin later in February. Biologists estimate the policy guidance could result in a total mainstem harvest of about 50,000 spring chinook, split for sport anglers and the commercial fishing industry. The way this would work out for harvest is as follows: (by my calculations) 50% commercial to 50% sport impact: Commercial Harvest: 17,500 total Sport Angler Harvest: 32,500 total 40% commercial to 60% sport impact: Commercial Harvest: 13,250 total Sport Angler Harvest: 36,750 total
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#227308 - 01/14/04 03:20 AM
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Fry
Registered: 12/09/03
Posts: 21
Loc: Washington
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This is not a done deal yet. WDF&W have always stuck by the commercial netters and ODF&W has leaned toward helping the sportfishing entity. They were studying 5 options for splitting the 2% Fed ESA impact (determines allocation) on Columbia springers between the commercials and sporties. They wound up being pressured into a switch around from last years allocations to favor the netters. But it's not stamped yet! The meeting in Olympia and in Oregon City on Feb 5th may still swing the decide ODF&W vote back in favor of the sportfishermen (who pay for these hatchery fish, I might add). Of course the Indian netters get a 13% impact for their "50-50" allocation. But that outrage is another whole big story! Spawnout was right on with his post above. Write letters to the two state's Reps and legislators. Tell them a couple hundred thousand votes are finally going to swing against them if they keep siding with the commercial netters, instead of on the side of saving wild fish and on the side of sport fishers that pay by far the most per capita toward hatchery funding. Like he posted, it only takes a few moments. Much less time than tying up a few leaders! Washington reps have the most need for a wake up call. Here ya go: Federal Senator ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Senator Patty Murray (Democrat-WA) United States Senate Washington, DC 20510-0001 Phone: (202) 224-2621 Fax: (202) 224-0238 WebSite: http://murray.senate.gov/ E-Mail : http://murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm Senator Maria Cantwell (Democrat-WA) United States Senate Washington, DC 20510-0001 Phone: (202) 224-3441 Fax: (202) 228-0514 WebSite: http://cantwell.senate.gov/ E-Mail : http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/index.html Federal Representative -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Representative Brian Baird (Democrat-03) United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-3536 Fax: (202) 225-3478 WebSite: http://www.house.gov/baird/ E-Mail : http://www.house.gov/baird/zipauth.htm State Senator -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Senator Joseph Zarelli (Republican-018) P.O. Box 40418 Olympia, WA 98504-0418 Phone: (360) 786-7634 Fax: (360) 786-7173 WebSite: http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/members/senmem18.htm E-Mail : zarelli_jo@leg.wa.gov State Representative -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Representative Tom Mielke (Republican-018) P.O. Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 Phone: (360) 786-7850 Fax: (360) 786-1066 WebSite: http://www.leg.wa.gov/house/members/d18_1.htm E-Mail : mielke_th@leg.wa.gov Representative Ed Orcutt (Republican-018) P.O. Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 Phone: (360) 786-7812 Fax: (360) 786-1066 WebSite: http://www.leg.wa.gov/house/members/d18_2.htm E-Mail : orcutt_ed@leg.wa.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------------ US Representatives http://www.oregon.gov/index.cfm?CurrPID=840 US Senators http://www.oregon.gov/index.cfm?CurrPID=839
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#227309 - 01/14/04 11:00 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/30/99
Posts: 526
Loc: Lake Forest Dark, Wa
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Ok I just e-mailed both Senators and my local District Reps. Get involved! BD
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#227310 - 01/16/04 01:00 AM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 01/02/03
Posts: 145
Loc: Mill Creek, WA
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#227312 - 01/16/04 10:52 PM
Re: Commercials Win Springer Battle
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Spawner
Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 842
Loc: Satsop
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My letter:
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife recently made a decision to allocate half of the havestable Columbia River spring chinook return to non-Tribal gillnetters in the lower river. Harvest of these chinook using gillnets results in twice the mortality of released wild fish than harvest using sportfishers, while returning many times less money per fish to the ailing Washington economy. Moreover, gillnet harvest at the rates WDFW is proposing will result in death to 7% of the wild ESA listed steelhead run. This travesty will reverse recovery efforts and is totally unacceptable. There is more than enough sport fishing effort on the Columbia to harvest all the available spring chinook in the lower river, and sportfishers rarely encounter steelhead while fishing with salmon gear. Moreover, since the Tribal fishery has been awarded 13% of the allowable ESA spring chinook impact, and the non-Tribal fishery only 2%, it seems that more than enough commercially caught spring chinook will be available to satisfy market needs. More non-Tribal commercial fish will just lower the value of the Tribal market further. It seems far better for both the economy and the resource for sports fishing to be employed exclusively to harvest the non-Tribal allocation of Columbia spring chinook.
I would really like you to give some attention to this matter, and to contact Dr. Jeff Koenings, WDFW Director, to encourage him to make the right resource allocation decision. Hundreds of thousands of sportfishing Washington voters will be watching how this goes, and will remember who was on the side of the resource at voting time.
Thanks for your attention to this matter,
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#227313 - 01/17/04 02:28 AM
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7084
Loc: Everett
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It seems far better for both the economy and the resource for sports fishing to be employed exclusively to harvest the non-Tribal allocation of Columbia spring chinook. Well stated Bob! 
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#227314 - 01/17/04 09:35 PM
Re: Commercials Win Springer Battle
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Spawner
Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 672
Loc: AUBURN
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h ere is my letter to mrs. murray. hello, this email is in regards to unfair fish allocation on the columbia...every year the commercial fishers get a higher allocation than sport fishers and we the sport fishers bring more to the local economies of washington state than they do, by far.. we need senators and congressman who really care about pacific salmon... they are a good indicator of how the environment is doing, there is to much bycatch of wild stealhead in the nets and wild salmon in the nets..they do need eliminated.. who will i and the ton of sportmen in washington vote for ?...someone who actually cares about the fisheries in this wonderful state,not for people who are in it for there own gain...how do you stand on this issue? thanks for any reply, and btw, no need to be "politically correct" im not about politics, i want real answers.. thanks, jerry
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