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#232604 - 02/12/04 12:22 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I'll just add it to the list of regs that don't get enforced, and give Sparkey a pat on the back........he's trying, which is more than most do. It's still just window dressing to me though.

I'll just live with it......and you'll hear me "whine" about it no more forever.
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#232605 - 02/12/04 12:34 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
B. Gray Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 633
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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#232606 - 02/12/04 05:00 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
elkrun Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/15/01
Posts: 783
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by Sparkey:

I was, plain and simple, fed up with the how so many handled wild steelhead on the rivers. And I found a way to do something about it...plus, do not forget, many others sent in similar proposals.
Do you honestly think these people will change how they handle the fish??? Hell, most dont even read the regs! This is just another example of the govt writing a law they cant enforce! Dont break your arm patting yourself on the back with this one.... its a dumb rule, and it shows the stupidity of the people making the decisions... hell, they cant even make a dent in poaching on the Quilcene, what make you think this will make any kind of difference?

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#232607 - 02/12/04 10:11 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Bruce Pearson Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 300
Loc: Auburn, WA USA
I'm just glad I'm not handicapped, because this rule seems to discriminate against our handicapped friends.

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#232608 - 02/12/04 11:45 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Bruce Pearson Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 300
Loc: Auburn, WA USA
Here's a picture of one of my friends. I don't think I need to tell you what he thinks of the new rule.


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#232609 - 02/12/04 10:03 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
nwmallard Offline
Fry

Registered: 02/10/04
Posts: 37
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
Oh boy ----

I'm pretty sure the commission did not think about handicapped anglers (along with alot of other things) when they put this rule into effect. And before somebody says it's hard for a person in a wheelchair to fish a steelhead stream, keep in mind there are plenty of anglers who are handicapped that are not in wheelchairs - but do have limited mobility. In other words - a net comes in real handy for them.

Sparkey - where art thou now???

Or is it... where art thee...I dunno, English never was my strong point.

JK
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#232610 - 02/12/04 10:07 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Bob Offline

Dazed and Confused

Registered: 03/05/99
Posts: 6480
Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
NwMallard ... Here we go again. Just as I mentioned, an overreaction. No removal from the water does NOT mean you cannot net a fish.
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#232611 - 02/12/04 10:44 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Sparkey Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/06/99
Posts: 1273
Loc: Western Washington
Quote:
Originally posted by elkrun:
This is just another example of the govt writing a law they cant enforce! Dont break your arm patting yourself on the back with this one.... its a dumb rule, and it shows the stupidity of the people making the decisions... hell, they cant even make a dent in poaching on the Quilcene, what make you think this will make any kind of difference?
First of all, nowhere am I giving myself credit for this new regulation. Many on this board started referring to it as 'Sparkey's Law' and direceted their disaproval at the regulation with me. I just stood up in defense of the regulation.

As a matter of fact, on another board, a member there thanked and congratulated me for getting this new regulation passed. I corrected him in that I did nothing more then send in a proposal and then send in a letter encouraging the Commission to pass the new law when the proposed regulation made it into the packet (which many others did).

And secondly, I will never oppose a regulation on the basis of "Oh...they won't enforce it anyways" or "Ohh...we dont have enogh enforcement" etc. etc. etc. That is one slippery slope I do not want to go down...
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#232612 - 02/13/04 03:18 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
eyeFISH Offline
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
huh NO MORE WILD FISH PIC's?

I think these would still qualify:





As long as the adipose doesn't show, I suppose any picture could pass as "legal".... here's one more shot of the same fish:

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#232613 - 02/13/04 08:41 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9160
Loc: everett
Nice pics
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#232614 - 02/13/04 11:06 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
cowlitzfisherman Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 06/14/00
Posts: 1866
Loc: Toledo, Washington
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#232615 - 02/13/04 01:07 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Bruce Pearson Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 300
Loc: Auburn, WA USA
I don't think the handicap issue is overreaction. I think it was a major oversight by the commission. Being able to use a net does not help people with certain disabilities.

I don't disagree with the good intent of the ruling, I just think it wasn't very well thought out.

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#232616 - 02/13/04 01:26 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
DrifterWA Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
beathead Pictures of Wild Steelhead should not be shown on any of the Forums or for that matter in the magazine "Salmon, Trout, Steelheader".

If they would not allow or put these pictures in either the forums or magazines, then much of the reason for taking pictures would be lost. Maybe a general policy of just hatchery steelhead should be the rule. That would eliminate a person saying it was "caught on the Lower Quinault or on some Canadian river.

The memories of the river, the setting, the friends, and the challenge of the fight should be enough, not "picture so maybe it will be posted in a forum or make the front page on some magazine".

"Worse day sport fishing, still better than the best day working" hello
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#232617 - 02/13/04 03:26 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
bob b Offline
Smolt

Registered: 06/26/01
Posts: 80
Loc: Eugene,Or.
Oregon is moving closer to the same law,new this year "should not be removed from the water."

I agree with the Wash. regulation and believe both states should expand it to include trout and salmon.

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#232618 - 02/13/04 04:51 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Theking Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/10/03
Posts: 4908
Loc: The right side of the line
Handicap people cannot use a dowel with a hook or a net?

Hey I cannot drive with my feet with out getting a ticket but a handicapped person can.

No one has a tag on their butt when born guaranteeing life is fair an equitable. It's just life.

BTW my dad is completly paralyzed with MS and used to fish 100 days or more a year. He would love to have the problem of figuringout how to release a fish.
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#232619 - 02/13/04 04:58 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
Bruce Pearson Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 300
Loc: Auburn, WA USA
I just think there should be some kind of exemption for them. I'd be suprised if that weren't challenged.

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#232620 - 02/13/04 10:55 PM Re: no more WILD fish pics
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
Quote:
Originally posted by cowlitzfisherman:
Time for CPR! laugh
You are absolutely correct CFM:

Catch...Photo....Release...
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#232621 - 02/14/04 04:44 AM Re: no more WILD fish pics
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Returning Adult

Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 371
Loc: W. WA
Quote:
history has shown over and again that every true visionary started his illustrious rise to recognition as a heretic.
eek sleep
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