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#235219 - 02/29/04 03:48 AM kwikfish poll
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In your personal experience when fishing a Kwikfish with hooks hanging from both the belly and tail screw-eyes, which hook catches the fish?
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#235220 - 02/29/04 12:24 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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why would one want to run 2 hooks. Much like a hot shot, they run well with just one siwash. Anything else is cheating and brutal to the fish, in terms of releasing of course.

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#235221 - 02/29/04 03:14 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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10ff

Couldn't agree with you more. My purpose in starting this poll was to see which screw-eye position would be the optimal one when limiting yourself to just one hook. I've heard arguments for both ways in a previous thread I started. I thought this poll would be a more objective way of answering the question.

So far it looks like the tail hook is the way to go.
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#235222 - 02/29/04 06:49 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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Registered: 09/20/01
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Loc: Seattle
If I was only going to run one hook, I'd run it off the belly with a bead chain or something to drop it back a little farther.

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#235223 - 02/29/04 07:04 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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Loc: Sheltona Beach
When running bait-wrap for springers the belly hook is my most productive one. The tail is back in the cheek for insurance. laugh
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#235224 - 02/29/04 08:10 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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Registered: 01/03/04
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Loc: Woodland , Wa
If I could only use one hook' I would use the back eye with a gamakatsu 510 model hook. Just add a swivel to the snap ring left on the back eye.



K13 - Use size 1/0
K14 - Use size 2/0
K15 - Use size 3/0
K16 - Use size 4/0

I like taking the belly hook off when I use a bait wrap. Less of a hassle to wrap the bait , and you dont get a poked with the hook.

You might be surprised on the results fishy fishy fishy

Here is some more info on that hook Gamakatsu 510 Good Luck......Ross
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#235225 - 02/29/04 10:16 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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Fish Hawg

Thanks for that pic. I lifted it off the I-fish site earlier today with the intent of posting it here, but you beat me to the punch. Guide Dave Johnson posted on I-fish that one team testing this hook in Alaska went an astounding 43 for 44 hookups!

I know another guide that tried the braided loop version of this hook on his Kwik's for silvers last year.... he's doing a full conversion on all his plugs this year.

The Gamakatsu rep recommends hanging these from the tail screw-eye with a barrel swivel. Still looking for a local supplier. Put a bug in the Zog's ear last Sunday when I stopped by Sportco.
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#235226 - 02/29/04 10:38 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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Loc: Woodland , Wa
Bob's In Longview/kelso had some last time i was there. Not real local though laugh
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#235227 - 02/29/04 11:32 PM Re: kwikfish poll
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Alevin

Registered: 01/31/04
Posts: 13
Loc: LaGrande Oregon
I'm relatively new to chinook fishing on the big river and have fished pretty hard below McNary for the last few years. My partners and I always cringe at the large treble hooks on kwikfish and the difficultly in releasing wild fish. We see too many people netting and/or boating wild fish, but its not necessarily because they don't know better, they sometimes, simply can't get the hooks out. I think we can all benefit from this type of discussion if folks are willing to try new things.

We've tried large siwash hooks on the tail as well as on the belly with chain. Has anyone experienced "short takes' where you get a couple of hard tugs and then nothing? We were thinking that some fish hit these plugs from the side and are able to let go when it feels tension. Is this common? I was hoping to hear from others about this.

We started experimenting with a smaller treble on the belly and a large siwash on the tail. This seemed to improve hook-ups, but did not increase ease of release.

Late last year, I started running a single siwash on chain from belly which seemed to work fine, but that was late in the season and I only hooked a couple more fish.

I'm definately going to look into those gammes...

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#235228 - 03/01/04 02:19 AM Re: kwikfish poll
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Registered: 04/25/00
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Doc and others:

I contacted Lure Jensen about something along this line. Wanted to know why they didn't sell Kwikfish with the "single hooks" that are being required in so many area of Washington State. They wrote back and said they tried single hooks "at 1 time" but the results were not very good.

Think we should "band together" to demand that if they want to sell products in this State, that Lure Jensen should sell products "off the shelves" that sportspeople can legally use right out of the box.

Yakima Bait Company, Blue Fox spinners, Flash Glo spinners, Many Mag Wiggle Warts...all can be supplied with single hooks.

Kinda pisses me off to buy a new fishing plug, then have to turn right around, cut the triple hooks off and add a beaded chain and single hook or maybe 2, "Just be be legal".


I see or find plugs all the time that aren't legal!!!

oh by the way---- all of my wiggle and mag warts......I use a 4-6 bead chains and 2/0 or 3/0 VCM or Mustang hooks. They work just fine for me!!!!!!

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