#237720 - 03/19/04 11:10 PM
Sea Worthy Boats
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Guys, Thanks to you all, I have narrowed my boat selection to 3 of our respectable local builders. I would like to ask for your opinion, ratings, and ranking for the following boats of the 22 ft outboard drive:
1. Skagit Orca 2. Palmer Tiderunner 3. Osprey
Thank You and Take Care.
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#237721 - 03/19/04 11:31 PM
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
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Loc: Everett
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 Skagit Hands down! Have you ever been on one of these boats? If it was within my budget there would be no decision. There is a dealership in Coronet Bay on Whidbey, I checked a few of them out, by far the nicest sportfishing boats I have seen in that class. I have seen Osprey at the shows and they look nice, but I dont think they are built as well and have as nice of appointments within. I have not seen the Palmers other than what is on their website. Look like good boats. My dream boat is an Orca! 
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#237722 - 03/19/04 11:45 PM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/13/00
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Loc: Kelso Wa.
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Iron Head, of the 3 I would rate them in this order: 2) osprey, I have run 1 for a couple trips in Ak. and it was a sweet boat, handled 3 ft seas very well and was a nice boat to fish out of. I also know some guys who charter out of them and they speak highly of them 3) Skagit Orca, though I haven't run 1 I think they are a well built boat and most of what I have heard about them has been good, I do know of a resort in Craig that runs a fleet of 24 ft Orca's and a couple of the guides have told me they don't like the way the handle in rough water. 4) Really know nothing about these boats so I don't have an opinion 1 way or the other. My personnal 1st choice of locally (or anywhere for that matter) built boats would be an Almar 
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#237724 - 03/20/04 12:03 AM
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Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
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Osprey Skagit Tiderunner
I love Skagit Orca (my first fall-in-love boat), but I wonder how much longer they will be in business. Tiderunner has a nice history, but they pretty much top out at 22'. right? I would rather get a 22' boat made by a manufacturer that builds bigger boats as well.
Have you looked at Almar, SeaSport, Palmer, and Campion? They are mighty nice as well. I know Campion does outboard on a bracket for their 22' Explorer. I don't know about the others.
Don't forget the dealer. I think you have to go with a boat+dealer combo you are comfortable with. The dealer is a very important part of the formula at this price point.
Good luck with your boat. You sure have a nice list to choose from. I hope to have the burden of such a decision someday.
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#237725 - 03/20/04 12:45 AM
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Registered: 11/21/01
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Loc: Tacoma
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With those choices, my favorite is the one you buy and I ride in!!! Doesn't seem that you can go wrong.
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#237726 - 03/20/04 09:50 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/04/99
Posts: 727
Loc: tacomca,wa,pierce
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what do u guys think of the Stripper boats? have also seen some nice wellcraft fishing boats.
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#237728 - 03/20/04 10:56 AM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 168
Loc: Puyallup
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IH, I dig my Tiderunner, but if iwere to upgrade i would love to have a 22' or 24' Seasport Sportsman 
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#237729 - 03/20/04 11:00 AM
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Registered: 12/10/02
Posts: 436
Loc: Everett, WA
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Before you drop a dime go visit the mfg plant. Look at the tooling, raw materials used, how the boats are put together, look at the guys building the boat. A lot of the local builders are still using the old Glas Ply tooling. It's ok, just that even if they have modofied it a bit its still old designs. Boat tooling and molds never go away. If a builder goes away someone else just picks up the tooling at auction or from the bank, and goes into the business. A quick rule of thumb is the heavier the boat and deeper the vee, the smoother the boat will ride thru the rough stuff, but will roll all over the place at slow speeds or in beam seas when trolling or at rest. A light boat with a deeper vee hull will also go thru the rough stuff but will really roll and wallow around in sloppy water at low speed or at rest. After 20+ years in the mfg biz I've been on or looked at nearly every boat made in the US. When asked what to boat to buy I tell people to buy what you need not what you want. Buy a boat suited to the conditions that you will use it. Buy a boat from a mfg thats been in biz a while. Long warrantees become worthless if the builder goes under. If you think that you will get "2 foot itis", stretch the budget and buy the bigger one as boats rarely appreciate in value. Trading for a larger model can be costly. Segwaying into buying from a builder who offers larger models. If you buy a Sea Swirl, trade up to a bigger Sea Swirl. Same with Trophy, Well Craft, Sea Ray, Alumaweld, Almar/North River, etc. Talk to other boat owners as to what they like or don't like about their boat. Just remember when doing so that opinions are like a**holes, everyones got one. Builders philosophies and markets change over time. A builder that built great boats 10 years ago can build crap today, a builder that built crap years ago can build a great boat today. 5 years ago Bayliner Trophys were nothing but fishy looking Capris, now they are fine boats. Do your homework and you won't be disappointed.
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#237731 - 03/20/04 01:29 PM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 01/03/04
Posts: 201
Loc: Woodland , Wa
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Sea Sport, 24xl, Or an Orca 
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#237732 - 03/21/04 01:40 AM
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Registered: 12/12/00
Posts: 447
Loc: tacoma, Washington, US
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Is the Orca the only boat that I can see the manufacture offering a life time waranty? Must be good if they offer a life time waranty.
Thanks
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#237733 - 03/21/04 02:45 AM
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Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
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Lifetime warranty is a gimmick IMO, especially for a boat. There are 10^6 ways for a maker to wiggle out of a lifetime warranty. I bet it doesn't cover the engine or outdrive.
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#237734 - 03/21/04 09:27 AM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
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Read the fine print carefully on those warranties. Lifetime warranties are usually "VERY" limited after 10 years.
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#237735 - 03/21/04 10:55 AM
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Registered: 12/10/02
Posts: 436
Loc: Everett, WA
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About all those limited lifetime warrantees really cover is if the boat dissolved totally in the water. Most "real" warrantees stop at 5 years. A warrantee is a financial liability to the mfg. If they fold their tent all warrantees are voided as no other mfg that may buy the assets will assume them, and the courts and creditors want their money. The selling dealer will be less than enthused about doing "warranty" work if he has no one to charge the $$$$ back to. What all of us posters are trying to tell you is to do your homework and choose wisely.
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