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#269100 - 07/27/04 06:58 PM Re: Timing is everything
Theking Offline
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Am,

I would feel safer if people like you and GH moved to France. It would raise the IQ of both countries. :p
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#269101 - 07/27/04 07:26 PM Re: Timing is everything
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oh, so i give you an answer you don't like and you change the question?

business as usual for the deceitful, hopeless righties who when vexed by arguments out of the left side of their mouths, refute themselves with the right.

Victory, they claim!!

Its as bad the two drunk dingleberries in the bar who put their quarter on the table of a guy whose been kicking ass all night long....and then ask to play doubles.

Then, after a long protracted match in which the brothers dingleberry muck up the table with inadvisable shots, they win because you sink the eight ball on a double-banker the long way. Not content to humbly count their blessings they hoop and holler, high fivin white guyin' it all over the bar as if winners of some grand Homerian conflict as you quietly replace your quarter.

Ultimately...who' the loser?
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#269103 - 07/27/04 11:37 PM Re: Timing is everything
John Lee Hookum Offline
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AuntyM

I would feel so much better about this war if TK and Scowak were there looking after our troops.
------------------------------------------------------------

TheKing offered me a deal where he would head to Iraq if I would flip some burgers and I agreed.

I will double my recipe and send burgers to Scowaky too, if asked. The King, I know the deal you offered and I agreed to, was between you and me, but what the heck, I'll be a sport and get burgers to him as well, while you two help hold down the frontline, in the War on terror. I will be so proud to know that my burgers were enjoyed by the most patriotic guy's ever to pick up a mouse.

You THEKING and SCOTT soooo SCOWACY, will be remembered more for your bravery and your ("Give me Iraqi Libery or give me dealth") will and determination, than any other Americans of our time, other than your leader, the Bushie. \:D

Now go get um, the burgers will get cold. I will even throw in fries, if that help's you in the war on Iraqi terror. Don't want more of those Iraqi's, flying anymore planes into our building, do we? We all remember what they did to us on 911, don't we? ;\)
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#269104 - 07/28/04 10:24 AM Re: Timing is everything
Theking Offline
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JLH,

It's nice they let you guys in the sex offender program have access to computers. Ever try fishing off the island?
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#269105 - 07/28/04 10:46 AM Re: Timing is everything
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"sex offender"?

where do you get this stuff?

its comments like that that expose you for the nutbag you are. a dude expresses his opinion, you don't like it, so he's a sex offender.

using a much more fluent trail of logic, by virtue of your chicken-hawkish support for an unjust war I could more easily make a case for you being a mass murderer, complicit in the deaths of thousands.

The penalty for such crimes?

I'm against the death penalty.....

Keep making idiotic comments like that, I figure you won't be around here much longer if you do.
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#269106 - 07/28/04 11:22 AM Re: Timing is everything
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Speaking of getting back on topic... ;\)

Anyone else notice the impeccable timing that Ashcroft exhibits with his indictment of that charity group from Texas? Although they funneled money to Hamas from '98 to '01, Ashcroft felt this week was the appropriate time to announce the indictment and his continuing "success" at fighting terrorism.
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#269107 - 07/28/04 11:36 AM Re: Timing is everything
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Victory!!

Can you see Dumbya and Asscroft high fivin it across the oval office?

Wonder what other 'surprises' they have in their hip pockets?
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#269108 - 07/28/04 02:14 PM Re: Timing is everything
ACT Offline
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Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 228
Loc: Port Townsend, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by stlhdh2o:
Again so that we all can hear you.

George Bush is a draft dodger.

We can argue how important it is in the context of this election once we get past that fact.
It can also be said that George W. Bush "DID NOT" I repeat "DID NOT" serve on both sides of the Veitnam conflict by "GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO AN ENEMY" like Jane Fonda.

Geoorge Bush did not vote against funding the Abrams Tank, Pa

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#269109 - 07/28/04 02:23 PM Re: Timing is everything
ACT Offline
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Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 228
Loc: Port Townsend, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by stlhdh2o:
Again so that we all can hear you.

George Bush is a draft dodger.

We can argue how important it is in the context of this election once we get past that fact.
It can also be said that George W. Bush "DID NOT" I repeat "DID NOT" serve on both sides of the Veitnam conflict by "GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO AN ENEMY" like Jane Fonda sKerry.

George Bush did not vote against funding of every defense project over the last 20 years, or refuse funding of the every equipment purchase that the military is using in our battle against Terrorism, or vote against funding for our efforts here on the homefront againsr Terrorism.

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#269110 - 07/28/04 02:23 PM Re: Timing is everything
goharley Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by ACT:
Geoorge Bush did not vote against funding the Abrams Tank, Pa
No, but Cheney did, so what's your point?

And in case you haven't noticed, Fonda's not on the ballot, so another moot point. But Kerry did serve, unlike Jr. - there's even video footage of him in a war zone. Bush can't even find all his pay stubs.

The accusation that he aided and abetted the enemy is pretty significant. Especially since he'd been awarded several medals. I'm sure you have hard data to prove that. I'd hate to think you were committing liable making false claims against a decorated war veteran, and a leading member of the team with McCain that helped repatriate all the POWs and MIAs from that war.

Although that seems to be the modis operandi of the GOP - "if you can't beat 'em with facts, assasinate them with liable."
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#269111 - 07/28/04 03:08 PM Re: Timing is everything
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Theking:
JLH,

It's nice they let you guys in the sex offender program have access to computers. Ever try fishing off the island?
------------------------------------------------------------

Psyco's like yourself often slip and reveal deep psycological problems while posting 1000 time's in less than a year. With that many posting in such a short time, it makes you wonder if it's not you that's locked up on an Island and away from the public, because of a troubling psycosis. That Fraudian slip of yours (regarding the Sex offender, penis envy, lonely Island referrances), will help with clues as to what's going on inside the mind of a cyber midget as yourself. So thirsty for the shed blood of innocent women and children (10's of thousands) that had nothing to do with 911 or WMD.
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#269112 - 07/28/04 08:30 PM Re: Timing is everything
ACT Offline
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Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 228
Loc: Port Townsend, WA
Go Harley

You said you want proof.

1. Read the book "Stolen Valor", about the pretenders and liars who made careers of slandering our military in Veitnam. This book is thoroughly documented, writtern years ago, still in print and has a whole chapter on John Kerry and his tiny group, financed by Jane Fonda and a KGB Operation.

2. Here are some more interesting reads:

What 20 years of Senate Votes Reveal ------>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4741992/

and

John Jerry on Defense..... Did You Know....

He voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Machine
He voted to kill the M-1 Abrams Tank
He voted to kill every Aircraft Carrier laid down from 1984 through today
He voted to kill Aegis anti aircraft system
He voted to kill the F-15 Strike Eagle
He voted to Block purchase 60 F-16
He voted to Kill the P-3 Orion upgrade
He voted to kill the B-1
He voted to kill the Patriot anti Missle System
He voted to kill the FA-18
He voted to kill the B-2 (Twice)
He voted to kill the F-117

In short he has voted to kill every military appropriation for the development and deployment of every weapons system since 1988 including the purchase of body armor for our troops.

He also voted to kill all anti Terrorism activities of every agency the U.S. Governmentand to ut the funding of the FBI by 60%, to cut the funding for the CIA by 80%, and cut the funding for NSA by 80%, but then he voted to increase American Funding for the U.N. Operations by 800%.

His voting record on these issues can be easily verified by checking the Congressional Voting Record, which lists all votes on all issues brought forth. No one can deny his or her voting record as it is a matter of Public Record.

Here are teo good sites ti check on voting records:

http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/how_to_votes.htm

and

htrtp://capwiz.com/c-span/dbq/issuesdbq/votesearch.dbq
(C-SPAN Vote Search)

Elected to the Senate in 1984 (20 Years as a Senator), he has proposed NO Major Legislation during that time and is a staunch party loyalist as demonstrated by his very frequent voting along party lines (even to the contrary of past votes on the same issues). In fact, as a SENIOR Senator he has never served on or in a Major Committee. To date he has servedin the following Senatorial Posts:

1) Chair, Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committtee (100th Congress)
2) Committe on Small Business (107th Congress[January 3-20, 2001 and June 6, 2001 - January 3, 2003]).

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#269113 - 07/28/04 11:03 PM Re: Timing is everything
h2o Offline
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Now lets talk about all the bs attachments, addendums, and pork that were clodded on to said bills......
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#269114 - 07/28/04 11:46 PM Re: Timing is everything
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Don't you guys even check to see if what you're posting is crap before you post it?

Here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/weapons.asp

Sh!t I hate these catch phrases and emails the campaigns put out this time of year.........it's even worse when it winds up getting recycled because people just read it and take it as gospel. "Kerry killed every defense spending bill singlehandedly." "Bush Responsible for Every Death Worldwide".

I'm sure Snopes is part of some liberal media conspiracy, though.
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#269115 - 07/28/04 11:51 PM Re: Timing is everything
Rory Bellows Offline
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Hey ACT,

Despite your admirable effort to shine a light of truth on the darkness of the most liberal member (John Kerry) of the senates voting record--I have discovered that liberals don't acknowledge or accept facts.

Facts are delt with by using logic.

Liberals like to deal with things by using emotion and feelings, i.e.-if it feels good -do it.

In discussing John Kerry's character and pointing out his countless flip-flops by comparing his public statements to his voting record, I've been challenged to ,"show me the mans words." What the challenger(s) didn't and still don't realize is that talk is cheap-- a persons actions and or votes are what speak the loudest about their true character.

The left secretly does not generally 'feel good' about John Kerry--they are wrapped up in the Anybody But Bush MoveOn.org mentality, and will take anything they can get. If Dennis Kusinich was the nominee--He'd be their man.
Not because he was good for America, but because his last name wasn't Bush.

Up till now John Kerry has had pretty much a free ride in the media, but now America is beggining to focus on the upcoming election.

The more they examine John Kerry's undisputible liberal ideology that is to the left of Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy and become aware of his inconsistant-wavering political stances that are fuled more by focus groups than conviction--the more they will not "feel good' about the thought as him being Commander and Cheif at this challenging period in American history.

This makes perfect sense to you and me because it's logical, but for the dedicated liberals on the left--it doesn't 'feel good'.

Fortunately there is only small amount of people in this country who proudly call themselves committed liberals--That's not to say they should be committed.

Dedicated committed liberals like Phil Donahue and Michael Moore who are supporting John Kerry are the execption and not the rule. They and their politics may be popular here in the Peoples Repulic of Seattle-- they're considered heroes by those who sit in the shaddow of Vladimir Lennon's statue in Freemont--But there are alot of logical people out there who don't look down on America, capitalism and democracy.

Michael Moore said yesterday addressing a group in a forum called Progressive (liberal) politics and the Democratic Party at the DNC in Boston,

"Canadians are alot like us (Americans)--only better."

He then went on to say America needs to vote for Kerry.

Most Americans don't think Canadians are better than the citizens of the United States--and most Americans won't vote for a dedicated liberal who flip-flops like John Kerry.
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#269116 - 07/29/04 12:10 AM Re: Timing is everything
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I didn't see many facts there. :p \:D

And let's not kid ourselves..........elections run on emotion as much as anything.

The only question is whether or not you want to get all caught up in it yourself. ;\)
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#269117 - 07/29/04 12:25 AM Re: Timing is everything
John Lee Hookum Offline
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DanS

Don't you guys even check to see if what you're posting is crap before you post it?
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Obviously not! As so illustrated in the presentation as fact in the above example.
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#269118 - 07/29/04 11:15 AM Re: Timing is everything
Theking Offline
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H20,

Libs like two sets of rules one for them and one for the rest of the world.

"its comments like that that expose you for the nutbag you are. a dude expresses his opinion, you don't like it, so he's a sex offender."

I and others express our views and we are chicken hawks and cowards? Where is the outrage H20 ? for the sake of cosistancy on your part.
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#269119 - 07/29/04 11:34 AM Re: Timing is everything
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Thanks, Dan, for saving me the trouble of posting that again for the late comers.

Additionally, here's some info from the Washington Post (12/16/84) and Congressional Testimony (2/1/90):
[i]"(Cheney) also chastised Reagan's defense policies - the same policies
conservatives are trumpeting as Reagan's lasting legacy. Cheney said at the
height of the Cold War that if Reagan "doesn't really cut defense, he
becomes the No. 1 special pleader in town." Cheney urged Reagan to cut
defense spending, saying, "the president has to reach out and take a whack
at everything to be credible," and told the White House that "you've got to
hit defense."

Six years later, Cheney followed through on his statements by changing the
same Reagan defense policies he now touts. In 1990, he bragged to Congress
that as Defense Secretary he "cut almost $65 billion out of the five-year
defense program" and that subsequent proposals would "take another $167
billion out." He highlighted, "we're recommending base closures," "we're
talking about force structure cuts" and "we've got a military construction
freeze."

Here\'s another link that points out more GOP misleading statements.


And, again, you haven't proven where Kerry's actions amounted to aiding and abetting the enemy. The book is the opinion of the author and pure conjecture on his part.
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#269120 - 07/29/04 02:18 PM Re: Timing is everything
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Loc: Portland
elvis-

obviously, it needs to be spelled out for you.

Chicken-hawk is a fair characterization of your 'support' for the war effort. You support the war, but are too chicken to follow through.

There is a basis for the characterization. I'm sure its distasteful to you but you have to live with that, don't you? Recall what people did when they believed in the cause of WWII? They enlisted....

If I believed in this war, like I did the first war in Iraq, I'd enlist. I tried the first time....

Now....please explain to us how 'sex offender' is a fair characterization?

...and when you're done stammering for an answer, consider juxtaposing your conversational technique against your 'religious beliefs'.

See you in Hell.
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