Yeah I wish we'd split too. I'm tired of funding an uneducated waste land that can't seem to fund itself.
While I hate paying more taxes and feel that they are not well spent I, at this time, hate the fact that I funded the eastern side all of my life only to have them turn and bite the hand that feeds them.
The west side has the majority and seems to influence elections and tax dollars and.....it's a democracy...what other anti american form of government are you proposing?

I left Wally World in 87, The only wine in W2 was whine(rs).

I will admit though, I do like some of the wines out of the area. Also is nice that I know someone in the Waterbrook Winery and get their wine at cost. Funny how I know someone at the St. Michelle winery and dang near refuse to buy their wines - even at cost.

You are right. I'd keep W2. In exchange, you can have Lynwood!

Actually, I like all of our state. It's a neat place. Wouldn't want to live any where else.

As for the crime thing, unfortunately, Washington pretty much leads the nation in Meth related crimes (I just made that up). Oh sure, Seattletropolis has it's share of big city murders/rapes, etc, but I bet most of the people taking up the space in the Penn are there for smaller, drug/theft related crimes (repeat offenders, etc, and yes, I just made that up, too!).

there's a little irony in that statement...

with the "statewide" gas tax and all... :p

If it was ever possible to split you better hope that western washington keeps the keys the grand coulee...

Ah Dam!

The dams are federal not state.
Just imagine what the statewide taxes would be for a new Eastern Washington state? Wah!

If only those two stadiums could have encircled King Co. It could have then been filled with skycrapers and hopefully it would sink under its own weight.

yeah....we're all pink wearing, rainbow sticker on our SUV drivin, patchouli sniffin commies out here in Sappho!

Nine cents a gallon hurts my wallet alot more than it hurts yours....we consistently have the highest gas prices in the state.

Again....you want to ***** about high gas prices start with the low hanging fruit.

OIL WAR! Then work your way up the ladder...same people that ***** about the gas tax are the ones who voted for Bush, which can be construed in no other way than a vote for higher gas prices

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you get what you pay for, or in this case, what you vote for.

I forgot you where forced to live in Sappho, buy a car and drive everywhere.

Don't you have a few hundred thousand signatures to gather instead of wasting your fingertips biatching on the internet?



'I won't pay nine cents extra a gallon for a gas tax but I WILL vote for a president whose policies have increased the average price of gas more than thirty percent'

hypocrisy of the highest magnitude.

you use the roads in Wa. State. According to Elvisian logic you oughtn't ***** about having to actually pay for it.

When I went to bed last night it was dark. When I awoke it was daylight, therefore my going to bed MUST BRING DAYLIGHT, I believe I'm beginning to understand your logic.

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WOW


So are you suggesting that people in our state and around the country should only receive state and federal services and have a say (voice) in the political process directly proportionate to the amount of revenue they generate and amount of taxes they pay?


http://www.nonewgastax.com

H20,

Show me where I have complained once about the gas tax? I would like to see a $.50 a gallon taxif you search the archives. I also believe you are contradictiong yourself. You have been pushing the doom and gloom Peak Oil myth for the better part of the year. Now you want to balme GW for the rise in gas pricies? Which one is it?

No, Rory, what I'm saying is that those who complain about taxes and such are the ones who manage to soak up a lot of the subsidies and welfare that come from them, and that if E. WA were to become the "State of Columbia", it would still be full of those who feel entitled to their welfare and subsidies, yet would no longer have the tax base to support it.

What next? Would Columbia declare war on Idaho to get their money?

Fish on...

Todd

The state has decided to take over the Belfair Bypass project from Mason County. Once completed, Hwy 3 will be far safer and it will trim a bunch off hubby's commute.

Pay the tax and STFU.

Actually most conservatives (those people in the red states or Jesusland) messure domestic policy success by how many able bodied people that are liberated from relying on public assistance vs. the liberal view of domestic policy which messures it's success by ever increasing the number of people who are dependant on public assistance.

The view that everyone out in Jesusland (those 'un-enlightened' areas outside of Fremont, New York, Boston, San Fransico and L.A.) are toothless, non-contibuting and on welfare is pretty myopic.

Rory,

"Actually most conservatives (those people in the red states or Jesusland) messure domestic policy success by how many able bodied people that are liberated from relying on public assistance"

Undoubtedly true that they feel this way, but undoubtedly true that they are also lagging well behind the "blue" states in actually getting off of said assistance...the blue states put far more into the system than they get back, and the red states take far more out than they put in.

"the liberal view of domestic policy which messures it's success by ever increasing the number of people who are dependant on public assistance."

This comment, of course, just exposes you as the zealot you are, rather than any actual knowledge or numbers, as it is completely made up out of thin air.

Fish on...

Todd

"...the blue states put far more into the system than they get back, and the red states take far more out than they put in."

Can you substantiate that ? I would like to see where you get that info.

There was a link posted earlier in the thread.

Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
Monday, September 27, 2004

The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill.

The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States. Here are the Top 10 states that feed at the federal trough (with Red States highlighted in bold):


States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)

In contrast, of the 16 states that are "losers" -- receiving less in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 69% are Blue States that voted for Al Gore in 2000. Indeed, 11 of the 14 (79%) of the states receiving the least federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Blue States. Here are the Top 10 states that supply feed for the federal trough (with Blue States highlighted in bold):

States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)
Two states -- Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) -- received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid.

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Here is a link to that information, and many more, with links to the tax agencies and the raw data:

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html

More?

How about the "moral majority" so proudly worn by the red states?

The Associated Press, using data supplied by the US Census Bureau, found that the highest divorce rates are to be found in the Bible Belt. The AP report stated that "the divorce rates in these conservative states are roughly 50 percent above the national average of 4.2 per thousand people." The 10 Southern states with some of the highest divorce rates were Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas. By comparison nine states in the Northeast were among those with the lowest divorce rates: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

Teen pregnancy? Oops...guess who the leaders are? That's right...the "moral majority" in the red states...again.



There's lots more where that came from...need some more?

Fish on...

Todd

Ok, what I really don't understand is our President's latest approval ratings.

Apparently, they are way down. Way, way down. As in, people think he's not doing a good job and just sucks, kinda way down.

How do you get such approval ratings from the very same peole who VOTED for you?????

Baffles my mind.

Honestly, did *anyone* expect anything different out of our President?

(Here comes the "better than the alternative" responses!)

How many of you (besides my brother) *still* think Gregoire STOLD the Governership????