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#356374 - 06/04/07 01:38 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: stlhead]
stlhdr1 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6424
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Is it only Washington state with this new sticker or does the entire US have it? You'd think motor manufacturers would have these placed in all boats to release themselves of any trouble or lawsuits from deaths resulting in Carbon Monoxide poisoning...

Seems lawsuits can be filed and won over just about anything. McDonalds and coffee for example...

Keith
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#356375 - 06/04/07 01:38 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: stlhead]
Wooly Bully Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 514
Loc: NE Seattle
This was explained to me ,unsolicited, by the nice lady at the tabs place in Longview.... Apparantly, the CO sticker has to be "visible to passengers" which Law Enforcement will need to verify. So ... if your freindly, neighborhood, LE Agent can't see that the sticker is visible to the passengers, from their own boat, then they will need to board your boat to inspect the sticker.

I don't have anything to hide ... but this patriot act type sh!+
P!$$eS me right off.

Or how about the marine drivers license that will be reguired of everyone but the PWC drivers??? - The "one" group that could benefit from the education the most.

As aquaholics, we need an organization that will alert us when this type of bull$hi+ is being legislated.
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#356377 - 06/04/07 02:08 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Wooly Bully]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
"As aquaholics, we need an organization that will alert us when this type of bull$hi+ is being legislated."

That I agree with wholeheartedly...aren't there any recreational boating organizations in Washington? My boats are all oar-powered and float down rivers, so I don't ever run into stuff like this...

Fish on...

Todd
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#356379 - 06/04/07 02:19 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Todd]
Knucklebustersonly Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/06
Posts: 2561
Loc: WA
I still think the "tsunami warning signs" that are all over the puget sound islands and lowlands are funny...Probably cost a few hundred dollars for each one to be made and then dug into the ground, and all they say is pretty much "Tsunami hazard zone. In case of an earthquake, go to higher ground."

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#356380 - 06/04/07 02:20 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: stlhdr1]
Knucklebustersonly Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/06
Posts: 2561
Loc: WA
 Originally Posted By: stlhdr1


Seems lawsuits can be filed and won over just about anything. McDonalds and coffee for example...

Keith


I love the one where the guy break into a house and fall through the skylight and sues the owner of the house for having it be dangerous...

Too funny

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#356400 - 06/04/07 11:43 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 12107
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
Just put the stickers on the back side of the cowling and be done with it,It's just a sticker.Like said above,I'm surprised that the boat dealer or motor manufactur hasn't put them some where.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

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#356401 - 06/04/07 11:54 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
USCG Boating Offline
Parr

Registered: 05/12/06
Posts: 65
Loc: Seattle
Hear is some infromation you may want to look at on the subject. FYI, In the last two years there have been eight Co poisoning fatalities in Washington state. Last year a family of three and the companion of the families 11 year old child died at Dworshack that made national news.

I know it seems petty when you look at how many people die from CO in other activities but those are more publisized and are more recognized as a cause of CO poisoning. A vast amount of CO poisonings on boats go unreported.

There has been a significant amount or research done on Boating and CO poisoning by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) that has prompted safety orginizations to take a harder look at boating related CO poisoning.

Some good reading:

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/coboating/

http://www.uscgboating.org/articles/boatingview.aspx?id=22

Dan
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#356402 - 06/04/07 11:56 AM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: USCG Boating]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
I think the stickers get in the way of natural selection. Time to repeal it, and thin the herd.
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#356404 - 06/04/07 12:03 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: stlhdr1]
USCG Boating Offline
Parr

Registered: 05/12/06
Posts: 65
Loc: Seattle
 Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Is it only Washington state with this new sticker or does the entire US have it? You'd think motor manufacturers would have these placed in all boats to release themselves of any trouble or lawsuits from deaths resulting in Carbon Monoxide poisoning...

Seems lawsuits can be filed and won over just about anything. McDonalds and coffee for example...




Keith


This is a state by state issue. Oregon has a law as does Califiornia. The stickers issued in the mail are for existing vessels. Manufacturers will be required to place these stickers on all new vessels .

Dan


Edited by USCG Boating (06/04/07 12:14 PM)
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#356405 - 06/04/07 12:06 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Todd]
USCG Boating Offline
Parr

Registered: 05/12/06
Posts: 65
Loc: Seattle
 Originally Posted By: Todd
"As aquaholics, we need an organization that will alert us when this type of bull$hi+ is being legislated."

That I agree with wholeheartedly...aren't there any recreational boating organizations in Washington? My boats are all oar-powered and float down rivers, so I don't ever run into stuff like this...

Fish on...

Todd:




There is an orginization in Washington State that publishes all of theses proposed legislative acts. It is the Recreational Boaters Assosiation of Washington, RBAW. Link:

http://www.rbaw.org

Dan


Edited by USCG Boating (06/04/07 12:18 PM)
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#356406 - 06/04/07 12:12 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Wooly Bully]
USCG Boating Offline
Parr

Registered: 05/12/06
Posts: 65
Loc: Seattle
 Originally Posted By: Wooly Bully

Or how about the marine drivers license that will be reguired of everyone but the PWC drivers??? - The "one" group that could benefit from the education the most.



Wooly Bully...it is not a license and the PWC operators are also required to have the card.
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#356407 - 06/04/07 12:22 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: USCG Boating]
Jaba'da butt Offline
Spawner

Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 739
Loc: Kelso, wa.
My friend in California put his sticker next to the "No Bananas" and the" No Illegals on Board" stickers.

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#356411 - 06/04/07 12:36 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: USCG Boating]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
 Originally Posted By: USCG Boating
 Originally Posted By: Todd
"As aquaholics, we need an organization that will alert us when this type of bull$hi+ is being legislated."

That I agree with wholeheartedly...aren't there any recreational boating organizations in Washington? My boats are all oar-powered and float down rivers, so I don't ever run into stuff like this...

Fish on...

Todd:




There is an orginization in Washington State that publishes all of theses proposed legislative acts. It is the Recreational Boaters Assosiation of Washington, RBAW. Link:

http://www.rbaw.org

Dan


Well, guys...there ya go then...a group that should be keeping an eye on this stuff for you...I bet you can sign up for e-mail alerts, or newsletters, or whatever, and the RBAW will let you know when laws are proposed that may affect your boating enjoyment...then you can get in on the lawmaking before the fact and maybe have an effect on what the final outcome is.

Fish on...

Todd
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#356440 - 06/04/07 02:43 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Todd]
Salmon Leader Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 239
Loc: Des Moines, Wa
What other opportunities are there for stickers to keep people from doing stupid things that kill? Let's start a list....here's one:

Need Sticker placed on:

1) The headboard of all beds as areobic activity kills more men who are out of shape than "Teaking".


Edited by Salmon Leader (06/04/07 07:11 PM)
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#356468 - 06/04/07 04:04 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Salmon Leader]
Batson Offline
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Registered: 05/21/07
Posts: 173
Loc: Sequim
Did not stick to the powder coating and came off first trip. I put it in my glove box and when Coast Guard on the big C Oregon side checked my boat I pulled it out and showed him. He did not know anything about the decal and rolled his eyes knowing I was from WA.
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#356472 - 06/04/07 04:09 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4358
Loc: South Sound
I think the only people that REALLY need to worry about it are the people that will have thier wakeboarding boats out on Lake Tapps or Lake Washington this summer.
(ie: place where the water cops will board you for a "safety & sobriety inspection" to use doublespeak)

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#356500 - 06/04/07 06:09 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Irie]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6830
So, since someone died here from being BF'd by a horse shouldn't there be a sticker on all horses?
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#356505 - 06/04/07 06:14 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: stlhead]
Chum Man Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2691
Loc: Yelmish
i haven't gotten my tabs yet, but if i get a sticker, it's going in the trash.

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#356507 - 06/04/07 06:23 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Chum Man]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Whoa...we have a serious rebel in our midst.

Fish on...

Todd
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#356510 - 06/04/07 06:26 PM Re: Got your new boat tabs and surprise? [Re: Todd]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6830
I'm sure you'll agree, Todd, that all lawyers should come with a warning label.
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