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#396106 - 12/13/07 02:49 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Back on topic. Al Gore...

Why I didn't vote for al Gore;

Al's got a shiny new persona and agenda, but it's just a slight deviation from the old one and hides his true agenda. Research his ideas on personal property rights some time. Had he been elected, we would have seen that he's more socialist than a democrat.

He thought the federal gas tax should be increased several dollars. He believed in curbing urban sprawl with federal regulation. The latest Supreme Court ruling on emminent domain would have fallen right in with his plans of "taking" private homes/property to create/expand parks and preserves.

Lastly, he is a hypocrite. He does NOT practice what he preaches with his own home and evironmental impacts. Saving the planet from global warming is a worthy goal, but it's not going to happen.


WOW we agree again.

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#396110 - 12/13/07 02:58 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: blue_jay]
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"He thought the federal gas tax should be increased several dollars. He believed in curbing urban sprawl with federal regulation. The latest Supreme Court ruling on emminent domain would have fallen right in with his plans of "taking" private homes/property to create/expand parks and preserves."

happened under GW. GW and pals love high oil prices. A little curbing of urban sprawl happend too with the credit crisis. Emminent domain issue also under GW. unless you think a president has nothing to do with issues like these. But then you can't use the argument against Gore either.
I'm pretty confident a lot more people would be alive today, the dollar would be stronger and we wouldn't be owned by China due to record debt and deficits.

AM seems to be crossing over to the dark side the closer Hillary get's to the White House.
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#396140 - 12/13/07 04:16 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: stlhead]
Knucklebustersonly Offline
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BootJay,
Let it go. Your digging yourself into a huge hole. You don't know environmental science/global warming at ALL and your proving it with your half-minded rambling....

Theres still some Chums for ya to catch...

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#396143 - 12/13/07 04:32 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
blue_jay Offline
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I'm flattered but I'm targeting steelies right now. thx. It doesn't take a scientist to talk about global warming, Al Gore proved that.

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#396159 - 12/13/07 05:29 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: ]
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The chums should be real easy to catch now. Good smoked.
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#396170 - 12/13/07 05:49 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: stlhead]
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Just walk the river and pick em off the bank. not really good fighters though.
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#396193 - 12/13/07 06:56 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
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What is the point of B_Js drivel. I have heard enough BS from B_J and at this point will use the ignore feature available on this web site. Solong for ever B_J.
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#396226 - 12/13/07 07:57 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: DUCMAN]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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No matter who's elected, if things don't change, we will have a semi third world economy in no time. It's to their (Cabal) advantage, that we buy into the media generated differences, thereby not noticing the similarities of being human. They have us divided into many groups, ( Democrat, Republican, Race, Religion, Conservative, Liberals, etc.) so that we fight it out, and hate our neighbors, and not notice the man behind the curtain. This keeps us from joining together, and demanding better choices of candidates, and demands for accountability for the common good of all of Americans. This prevents us from seeing the forest for the tree's. We need to change the system of Campaign financing, so that all candidate can be on equal footing. We need public funded elections so that the other political party's can compete in debate, and in the media. Keep this up, Dubai will be handed over the office's of the Cia and Homeland security. Monopoly money wins again. American people go strait to jail, collect no money and don't pass go.

Take the cotton out of your ears folks, and put it in your mouth. I'm talking about China setting up sweat shops here on the main land, people!? Air Bus is looking for cheap US labor, and are planning a building cite here in the States. They do this for the cheap labor and production cost, which will definitely upset Boeing's apple cart. At the rate China is sucking coins out of the system, they will be setting up manufacturing here as well, because the labor will be cheaper here, than in China.

Strange but true, the predicament we find ourselves in. Wonder why our leaders are hesitant in supporting World environmental pollution restrictions? Could it be that, if and when China decides it wants to remove smoke stacks and smog from it's atmosphere and territory, they can always have them moved here, while they get cleaner air, as our politician get bankrolled? However, this wont prevent them from controlling the World's economy, with all the cheap goods from the sweat shops, they will set up here, and the snowballing growth of it's currency. China has mass property holdings all over this country, and especially here in Western Washington. Remember GW and his, "brother can you spare a dime, so that we can afford to slap ___, and Iraq ass, for their oil." Now we owe the farm and they still own the oil..

Just imagine in the future, the further North, the cheaper the labor, as heating fuel becomes an issue. Can you imagine living in the factory where you work (as they do in China now) in order not to freeze your butt off, and making a few pieces to send back to the family in Minnesota? .

Could be right around the corner, that we realize getting the bulk customer services, and phone tech assistance job holdings, that India and other countries now monopolize. Why? Because it would be cheaper here, than any where else. One thing that would be welcomed, would be the ability to understand the English being spoke by the person at the other end of the line.

Just looking at, and commenting on the direction the ship is heading. We need to clean house, and get new people in congress, as well as the White house. I don't really care for most. If their mouth's are moving, they are lying. Maybe with the exception of a couple or three.

Arguing over who's the best politician of the choices we have, is like pissing in the wind, and expecting to not get soaked. Besides, the one with the most votes, still may not get the nod. The election could still get handed to the loser, as has happened in the past. Is that Third World behavior, or what. Remember, they still did not fix those easy to manipulate voting machines, that are at the ready with the same identical flaws. Neither party will protect, because they Know that there masters wont like it if they do. Might jeopardize their chance of being appointed, or handed the election. We have had 8 years to clean this [censored] up, and still there is not a peep, from any of our so call leaders, for an update on the status of securing our vote. A paper trail is no longer required. That way, there can be no contest of any of their shenanigans, after the polls are closed, and the numbers are entered electronically, for the winner thats chosen in advance of the voting.

Go ahead and keep slamming each other, with the media generated mythology, that promotes hatred, and isms of all conservatives, liberals, all Christians, Muslims, Buddhist, Hindu, Jews, Red Men, Yellow men, white men, Brown men. You name it, they will find hate for it . It's the foundation of the blame game. I don't have it, so you must have it, while the real crooks continue to get away clean, with the content of the vault, leaving the almost extinct middle class holding the bag.


Edited by John Lee Hookum (12/14/07 12:36 PM)
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#396230 - 12/13/07 08:04 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: blue_jay]
Knucklebustersonly Offline
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 Originally Posted By: blue_jay
It doesn't take a scientist to talk about global warming, Al Gore proved that.


Anyone can talk about it, but it doesn't mean they are correct...Boot_Jay proved that...

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#396350 - 12/14/07 01:26 AM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
blue_jay Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Fish Hunter 07
 Originally Posted By: blue_jay
It doesn't take a scientist to talk about global warming, Al Gore proved that.


Anyone can talk about it, but it doesn't mean they are correct...Boot_Jay proved that...


Your just mad because the founder of the weather channel called global warming the biggest scam in history...after all what does that guy know? right...

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#396380 - 12/14/07 04:28 AM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: blue_jay]
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WTF???? What I meant (and you didn't comprehend) was that you really are completely uneducated on "global warming" and your facts are wack...


Edited by Fish Hunter 07 (12/14/07 04:29 AM)

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#396402 - 12/14/07 09:27 AM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
blue_jay Offline
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FACTS are wack huh? LOL...okay those are facts from a scientist which you are not.

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#396417 - 12/14/07 11:24 AM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: ]
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We'd probably put on a great show and then run on a combined ticket...

Fish on...

Todd
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#396439 - 12/14/07 12:11 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: ]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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 Originally Posted By: stam
Who gets the top?...billing.


Huckabee for republicans
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#396476 - 12/14/07 02:00 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: blue_jay]
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 Originally Posted By: blue_jay
FACTS are wack huh? LOL...okay those are facts from a scientist which you are not.


LETS SEE YOU PROVE YOUR FACTS....I tend not to believe facts from someone who talks like an idiot about the subject and thinks trees produce C02..


Just cause he's a scientist doesn't mean he's correct. But you are correct, I'm not a scientist, thanks for telling me, but I'd like to meet this "scientist" and see if he educated you about the dangerous trees that produce C02...

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#396511 - 12/14/07 02:36 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
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The question really is can alarmist prove global warming exists and they can't. BTW any person can google "trees create co2" and find the answer for themselves in the first couple search results. It's no secret, I think most public education systems cover that fact by atleast 8th or 9th grade. Some kids obviously didn't pay attention. ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING HERE??!?!?! LOL

I'm not going to post links to old news. When I find something new I might, but probably not.

Why get so defensive? Do you hug trees?

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#396537 - 12/14/07 03:20 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: blue_jay]
1bighog Offline
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Registered: 11/18/06
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 Originally Posted By: blue_jay
The question really is can alarmist prove global warming exists and they can't. BTW any person can google "trees create co2" and find the answer for themselves in the first couple search results. It's no secret, I think most public education systems cover that fact by atleast 8th or 9th grade. Some kids obviously didn't pay attention. ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING HERE??!?!?! LOL

I'm not going to post links to old news. When I find something new I might, but probably not.

Why get so defensive? Do you hug trees?


I dont log in here much as anyone can see by my post count, but BJ is giving me too much of a headache with his twisted logic not to respond.

Yes, anyone that can remember anything about biology knows that trees produce CO2 during respiration at night and when they are dying. Biodiversity is the important fact that you seem to be missing. The Oxygen created by these trees during daylight hours through photosynthesis keeps the environment in balance.

You want to compare CO2 created by trees with CO2 created by humans? What a joke! When is the last time that Oxygen was created by the process of burning fossil fuels? Um...never. Until they can create an internal combustion enginge that creates oxygen in it's off time, you're logic is screwed.

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#396543 - 12/14/07 03:27 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: blue_jay]
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It's been proven that global warming exists via ice core samples and such. Some debate the cause kind of like some deny the holocaust or man landing on the moon (that's you by the way).

Trees take in CO2 and create oxygen and I don't have to google that as I learned it about the second grade. You can google the moon is made of cheese and get lot's of hits as well.
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#396544 - 12/14/07 03:28 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: 1bighog]
Todd Offline
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"That was mean Stam. Todd couldn't survive on the bottom and you know it! "

I may look skinny, but 6'3" and 225 lbs. can lift some weight!

How's about we go with "co-ticket"...?

Fish on...

Todd
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#396554 - 12/14/07 03:44 PM Re: Santa can't save you from Al Gore [Re: ]
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Thanks Aunty, that was an interesting read. I want one.
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