Does your buddy think he is going to have to protect himself that much?

This is an interesting thread. I know nothing about bullets.

RvW...... Are you making fun of me??

Only if you're scared of guns.

I just know so little about them. LOL

Maybe Blades would teach me..

LOL. You have owned most of the firearms produced...and if not it is probably on the list.

I don't think Blades could teach you anything you would want to be taught.

Just having fun here.

Hope you and the family had a good Christmas.

Back on topic....

RvW has got it right, RBCD Performance Plus.

We had a great Christmas. I hope Jordan had santa bring him a 23' fat bottom. (wink)

Happy New Year Big Daddy to you and your great bunch. I hope the New Year brings you all health and prosperity.

no he got a good deal on 20 cases for each caliber, and you would never guess where and how much. you guys wouldnt believe me even if you were there with us when he baught them lol...

he just uses them for target shooting...cause he is badass like that. lol and a moron.

I've fired the 23 and the 22, both were fun, but no Glocks for this household. I prefer a real safety. Calling a trigger a safety seems retarded. I want to be sure that if the lady is threatened and the adrenalin is flowing, she doesn't squeeze a round off into her own leg or gut trying to pull and draw on some ahole. I want every part of the process to be deliberate.

The money is set aside, now the decision is whether to pick up one Kimber Pro CDP II for about a 1K, or pick up two Pro Carry's for a few hundred more than the cost of the one CDP. And time to look for a holster that'll fit and be functional when we're wearing waders.

Off topic...Can there be anything more American than a liberal packing a gun? God Bless our Founding Fathers.

they have a slide lock that replaces that shitty "trigger" lock on the glocks. i ordered one the other day.

its the same thing thats on it. but it has a little push slide that slides into place on the trigger. its very nice.

glocks are a very safe gun...

personaly though as nice and a glock is. and they are rather cheap with tones of mods.

i would much rather have a springfield xd. those are some damn fine guns and at just over $400 they are a great deal.

but i know you said you wanted a couple kimbers. and i dont blame you. i love kimbers. if i had the cash i would jump all over one or two. the ultra carries are so nice. and at only 25oz's they are light.

btw glocks have 3 safeties...but they all disengage with the trigger safety. which imp is very very retarded...but the one thing i really do like about them is there is not hammer to get snagged on anything. so for that gun to go off you need to pull the trigger...and i have messed with mine alot and you need to have the trigger safetly fully pulled plush with the trigger or the gun will not fire.

but like i said also they are retarded and im with you on that one. i dont like it much either. lol

if you got the money spring for 2 ultra carry's. thats what i would do...they are awesome guns. and a true pleasure to shoot.

Thanks for the info deerslayer. I'll keep it in mind. How much did the Ultra Carry's run you?

oh no i dont have one YET...i said if i had the money i would get one...well i will get one or two in the near future.

the cheapest i have seen them anywhere has been around $830...my buddie has 11 kimbers and he says and i quote"if you can kind come for under $1000 you better jump on it cause thats one hell of a deal" and thats the 1911 style.

tahts [censored] though cause ultra carries are under $900 at most places, and cdp's i have also seen for rigth arond $900 aswell.

sportsmans whare house is abut $50-100 cheaper then anywhere i have found so far with their prices on handguns. dont overlook them.

I call your Kimber and raise you one Colt 70 series Combat Commander L/W
Which is 30+ years old I might add.

BTW, I like the Kimbers as well. Nice pistols. Kimber has taken features that in the past would cost you a fortune to have added to your Government Model pistol and put them all in a quality production gun that everyone can enjoy.

Way back when, I bought a "plain jane" 1911 colt and had it customized to the tune of $2,000 . New Wilson match barrel, full length guide rod, match trigger, sear, hammer, extended thumb safety, high ride grip safety, lowered/flared ejection port...etc...etc.

Granted, all those parts were hand fitted and installed by an old gunsmith with decades of experience. In a Kimber you can have those same features for the price of a factory pistol.

Or how about a L/W Compact Springfield Armory 1911 that's been tuned up:

An alloy frame Compact .45 Hot Rod. I don't what would scare the intruder the most. The noise, the fireball, or the incoming 230 grain balls of lead.

The very short barrels on these pistols has the unwanted drawback of increased muzzle lift and increased muzzle flash. It's a slight increase over the 5" barreled 1911's, but an increase nonetheless.

I can put more rounds downrange faster and more accurately with a longer barrel 45 than I can the compacts. But you cant beat their size for discreet carry.

The Kimber will be for carry, not for home use. For home use there is a 12 gauge Mossberg 500 sitting by the bed. The rule of the house is to reach for that first in case of a break in. With consideration of safety as primary, I think I should also be spending some money to put a real hardcore door on the bedroom and make that the safe room. Better for her to barricade herself behind a door with a shotgun, than go try and clear the house out on her own.

Of course being a guy, if I'm at home I'm going to go and greet my uninvited guests.

We think alike on the home defense. Nothing beats a 12 gauge pump for intimidation factor. Just something about that unmistakable sound of the action racking on a 12 gauge. It is a universal sound that knows no language barriers.

those are some good looking colts.

i seen quite a few really nice ones for around $600 at bullseye in tacoma. vhawk you may want to check them out to save a little if you are planning on purchasing to guns. they were used but you couldnt tell at all.

For Carry Ive used a 9mm, a Ruger 45LC and most recently a S&W Airweight .38 sp

For the 9mm it was brass 124 gr +P HP's, the 45LC had 300gr Bear Loads, and the .38 has +P HP's as well.

Now for HOME protection, nothing beats a Kalishnikov AK-47 with Radium nightsights, which when cocked makes and even louder ratchet than my Remington 870 Express Magnum. But if I'm feeling old-fashioned, there's always my Bayoneted 6.5mm Husqvarna Mauser, which, weighing it at about 15 lbs, makes a good hand-to-hand melee weapon as well as being a flat shooter.

I wouldn't even bother with the crappy little .22 plinkers.