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#398938 - 12/22/07 11:16 PM personal defense rounds?
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i picked up a glock 23 40.cal today and im just curious what the best deffense round is...

the gun wont be packed around much as a personal deffense gun. i got it more for a sidearm when in the mountains or fishing in the upper reaches of local rivers.

but im still curious what most of you guys use as your personal deffense round, against people OR animals when hiking...

thanks alot.
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#399045 - 12/23/07 08:37 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: bankwalker]
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#399047 - 12/23/07 08:39 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: N W Panhandler]
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lmfao
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#399059 - 12/23/07 09:36 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: bankwalker]
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My favorite is the Speer Gold Dot 180 grain bullets. They were issued to me when I played Starsky & Hutch. Accurate, HUGE hollowpoint cavity, and those neat cutting points like the old Winchester Black Talons. They also come in 155 grain.
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#399080 - 12/24/07 01:51 AM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: Dogfish]
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Any defense rounds from a major manufacturer will be decent. Remington, Federal, Winchester, Speer, CorBon, etc. Modern self defense ammo is pretty good.

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#399134 - 12/24/07 01:00 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: cupo]
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my buddie has 7 cases of black talons for 40.cal and 7 cases for 9mm. and he wont let me have OR buy any.

those are some awesome rounds.

i got some speer gold dots in 180gr i think...they shoot good and accurate out of my gun.
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#399155 - 12/24/07 01:54 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: bankwalker]
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I always liked the Glazer Safety Slugs.

If you're gonna double-tap someone in the chest, might as well do it with a pair of Glazers.

Actually, if you're gonna double-tape someone in the chest, do it right and stick with the good ol' .45ACP.

No one gets up after 2 rounds of .45ACP in the chest.
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#399159 - 12/24/07 02:12 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: parker]
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 Originally Posted By: parker
I always liked the Glazer Safety Slugs.

If you're gonna double-tap someone in the chest, might as well do it with a pair of Glazers.

Actually, if you're gonna double-tape someone in the chest, do it right and stick with the good ol' .45ACP.

No one gets up after 2 rounds of .45ACP in the chest.



hehe yeah i wanted a 45.acp but i got a great deal on a very very clean glock 40. so i had to take it. lol

ill get a kimber ultra carry 45acp in due time.
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#399214 - 12/24/07 08:06 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: bankwalker]
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The Ranger SXT is supposed to be very similar to the Black Talon. How much "better" the Black Talons were depends on who you listen to. I still think the difference between most quality JHP rounds is minimal. Bullet weight for your caliber might be more important than the fancy name for the bullet design.

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#399217 - 12/24/07 08:29 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: cupo]
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RBCD Performance Plus ammo is hard to beat when it comes to soft targets. Google them. They are also being adopted for special military applications under the Le Mas name. Very incredible performance is all I can say from the testing I have done.
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#399222 - 12/24/07 09:22 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: RowVsWade]
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Ranger = Black Talon. Good ammo made more sensational by the media.
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#399228 - 12/24/07 10:08 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: Dogfish]
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thanks guys.

well i got some good researching to do.
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#399462 - 12/26/07 09:30 AM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: parker]
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 Originally Posted By: parker
I always liked the Glazer Safety Slugs.

If you're gonna double-tap someone in the chest, might as well do it with a pair of Glazers.

Actually, if you're gonna double-tape someone in the chest, do it right and stick with the good ol' .45ACP.

No one gets up after 2 rounds of .45ACP in the chest.




I'm looking at picking up a pair of Kimber's in .45ACP.

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#399546 - 12/26/07 03:20 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: VHawk.]
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 Originally Posted By: VHawk
I'm looking at picking up a pair of Kimber's in .45ACP.


Kimber's ROCK!

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#399587 - 12/26/07 05:24 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: VHawk.]
bankwalker Offline
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 Originally Posted By: VHawk
 Originally Posted By: parker
I always liked the Glazer Safety Slugs.

If you're gonna double-tap someone in the chest, might as well do it with a pair of Glazers.

Actually, if you're gonna double-tape someone in the chest, do it right and stick with the good ol' .45ACP.

No one gets up after 2 rounds of .45ACP in the chest.




I'm looking at picking up a pair of Kimber's in .45ACP.


arent we all...arent we all

that kimber SIS is one sweet gun....well they all are actually. i really want a kimber ultra carry.
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#399591 - 12/26/07 06:01 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: bankwalker]
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If looking for Kimbers make sure to have then throated and polished if you plan on shooting hollowpoints reliably.

A target weapon and a self defense weapon are not always the same animal.
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#399617 - 12/26/07 06:59 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: RowVsWade]
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 Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
If looking for Kimbers make sure to have then throated and polished if you plan on shooting hollowpoints reliably.

A target weapon and a self defense weapon are not always the same animal.


thats why when givin the chance on either a glock or a kimber...i went with glock.

not to mention. who really wants to get all that holster wear on a shiny new kimber.
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#399655 - 12/26/07 08:35 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: bankwalker]
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If your looking for a carry gun, go with the Glock in either 40 S&W, 10mm or 45ACP.

They function the first time....every time.

Not that I know much about guns...they kinda scare me!!




Edited by Big_Daddy (12/26/07 08:36 PM)
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#399670 - 12/26/07 08:59 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: Big_Daddy]
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HK USP compact for me in .40 S&W. Small, double/single action, 12+1. Added a Hogue hand-all. Eats any ammo I throw at it, all weights and bullet profiles out of the box.
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#400176 - 12/28/07 05:17 PM Re: personal defense rounds? [Re: Big_Daddy]
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 Originally Posted By: Big_Daddy

Not that I know much about guns...they kinda scare me!!


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