Does this thing have legs?

Where is the mainstream media?

Or is this just smoke?


Berg vs. Obama: Civil Action Lawsuit : Obama Not United States Citizen




http://www.obamacrimes.com





For Immediate Release: - 08/21/08

Suit filed 08/21/08, No. 08-cv-4083

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court today, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States. Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in his lawsuit that Senator Obama:

1. Is not a naturalized citizen; and/or

2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or

3. Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Berg stated: “I filed this action at this time to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.

There have been numerous questions raised about Obama’s background with no satisfactory answers. The questions that I have addressed include, but are not limited to:

1. Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada; or ?

2. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?

3. What was the early childhood of Obama in Hawaii; in Kenya; in Indonesia when he was adopted; and later, back to Hawaii?

4. An explanation as to the various names utilized by Obama that include: Barack Hussein Obama; Barry Soetoro; Barry Obama; Barack Dunham; and Barry Dunham.

5. Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.

If Obama can prove U.S. citizenship, we still have the issue of muti-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegance to other countries.

great, another Scotus decision they will wine about forever. Im also in favor of drug testing politicians.


Where is the mainstream media? Where have you been? Theyve been brown nosing this guy for the last two years. I wonder if he could qualify for a top secret clearance, given his drug use and his associations to Ayers and Rev Wright. I heard that he does not have a birth certificate.

LB - You can't really be serious can you? GW got top secret clearance and he did drugs and was convicted of DUI. If fear were dollars, the anti-Obama folks would all be very, very rich.

Fear & Loathing in PP Darkside Forums.

Chew on this: McCain isn't qualified to be president because he wasn't born on U.S. soil.

He was born in Panama.

Now that would be One Huge fock up Democratic nominee not a US citizen.

Watch out! This will go to the Dem Convention, they'll have a roll call vote and The Hildabeast is back in biz. Don't put it past her that she is spreading the word. Who do you think her VP pick will be?

Check...



Mf

He was born in Panama on a US military Base.

There I fixed that for you, Irie. How come the military votes and the military babies dont count?

One of the reasons I like McCain!

Bush is an ex druggie and he "qualified".

Eddie, you just have to get me that liberal manual on debate tactics. ( You can't really be serious can you?)
You and Todd seem to use that a lot. Oh, didnt you say in 06 you were going to vote a straight ticket for the first time?


Did GW befriend an American Terrorist? or Rev Wright? I dont remember any facts or admission from GW that he used drugs. I know there were allegations of cocaine use. Never saw the proof. I dont know if secret service or FBI agents are allowed previous drug use, but then, politicians seem to get their own set of rules. Get busted for drugs and try and get into Canada, or go to work for a trucking company, airline or the railroad, life is much less forgiving.

oops I did it again!

I love that one there Stew. I'll remember to bring that one out of the closet, albeit revamped, if the Democrats should ever want to take ANY of my firearms away, or prevent lawful citizens from owning them, like they did when Wild Bill was in the oval orifice, I mean Monica.

That being said, Sal & LB, Please use your friend, Snopes.com, prior to posting things sent to you via e-mail.

Snopes Obama myth (Click me!)



In the words of my personal life coach, Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"

WAIT, is Hawaii one of the 57 states?

You can print anything these days. Thats a pretty nice copy.

Some of you neo's need your guns taken away.

That's just the attitude I'm talking about.

Stew.
Please stop with the Neo Bullshitt.

If you love the third grade name calling go back to www.democraticunderground.com you will find comfort in numbers there.
I'm a middle of the road athiest.

I made this post only because I heard mention of it at work and looked up the website.

My question was about the lawsuit and my curiosity with it's regards to the election.

Sheesh...
Some of you need to lay off the bong and get a little more oxygen to those damaged brain cells.

Welcome back Stew (I forgot to say).

We've got moonbats on both sides today! What a treat.

Hey! Don't make fun of D-ung!

I got banned from there for telling some hippy dumbass that no one was going to stop using paper towels and that if she wanted to save the world she'd better find a more practical means--the mod explained in the PM that I was being "hurtful."

Dung is only big forum the Lefties have. Righties have Stormfront.org, all the gun sites, The Clear Channel etc etc.

If I wanted to hang out with a lot of New Age, touchy feely, group hug dildoes or a bunch of militant cold warrior ditto-heads I'd post somewhere else, but instead I have this nice place which is filled with resonably educated* Pacific Northwest outdoorsman which is about as niche-centric as any of us will ever find...(unless one of you finds a forum dedicated to guys who dress like nuns and spank baby-oiled Dwarves with silicone implants with yard sticks... )




*some exceptions apply

Where is that site? I wanna join!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

The mainstrea media didn't cover this topic because it's blatantly untrue.

Fish on...

Todd

One other thing about that birth certificate. Mine came in 1955 and it has a hand and foot print ON the certificate. It also does not list the hospital or the attending physician, or midwife. Anybody have one without the hand and foot print? I still think its a fraud.

I really can't believe some of the stuff the wingnuts post here, but the above sends a clear, unmistakeable message regarding the state of wingnuttery . Some bottom feeding ignoramus has become an instant expert on Birth Certificates,......

Did your bith certificate also list the familial relationship of your parents prior to their marriage ?
Like to each other I mean................

'Cuz judging by your posts, I am thinkin' there was one............................

Sprayed my Comp screen with water when I read that one

I heard this on some conservative talk show. Definitely sounded to me like the usual conspiracy rooted in the internet. When will people learn that you can't believe everything you read or watch on the internet. The main stream media hasn't touched it because there is no basis to it.

I am not a big fan of Obama (or Mcain for that matter), but you got to know when to call B.S. on some of this stuff that comes out.

I really can't believe some of the stuff the wingnuts post here, but the above sends a clear, unmistakeable message regarding the state of wingnuttery .

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The radical left is every bit as effed up as the far right.
Are you capable of admitting that?

I posted this thread as a question not a statement.

LMAO...No shiat Salmonella......

You got the far Left Liberals porking each other, and it seems your taking it in the shorts, for posing a "?"...

Mf

No issue with you at all Sal, you posted a valid question. I had a client tell me the same story the other day, so I went to snopes.com, and showed him. It is a good source of debunking looney stuff. Hopefully what I posted answered your question.

I just sit in the middle, playing the part of referee at a moonbat-mitton tournament, as the shuttlecock, or issue gets batted back and forth.

LB, you can get a reprint of your birth certificate on the current forms, which are different than the ones back in the 50's & 60's. I know because I got a reprint of mine, then found my old one. Two completely different formats.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/001_ObamaComplaint.pdf

It seems that the lawsuit is real filed by a democrat, Philip Berg, the former Deputy Attorney General of PA, a practicing attorney in Philadelphia. The lawsuit was filed in PA.

From what I understand the judge denied a temporary restraining order until the case can be heard but did not dismiss the case.

There are more issues than the birth certificate but IMO this is nothing more than a waste of time & money & is really reaching or stretching it - in other words bogus.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama

Sure Sal, but when's the last time some 'far left' poster started a thread, or posted on a thread saying McCain was a 'Manchurian Candidate' with a mixed race kid ? (Oh, BTW, That was the Bush campaigns tactic in 2000 during the South Carolina primary). I mean, can someone point me to the thread ?

I didn't think so.................

Or perhaps another queestion, when was the last time a 'far left' member (whatever that is btw) posted some not so veiled item about McCain, like 'he gave the enemy information about troops and carriers in the area while he was a POW' ? (Even though McCain freely admits that he did so in his autobiography) Considering McCain himself admitted so in his autobiography, that would seem a legitimate issue for discussion, yet I haven't seen it posted.

Imagine if it was Obama (the muslim radical sworn in on a Koran who wasn't even born in this country) who did what McCain did ?

It's not rocket science to discern the tactics of the right, they haven't changed for 30 years. Dog whistle politics, innuendo, smears, lies.

So you see, the right wingnuts are so inexorably tied to bottom feeding half truths, innuendo, and bald faced lies that every so often it is worth pointing out just how ridiculous they are.

I look at it as performing a civic duty..............................

How about "if GWB is elected another Black Church will be burned"? There are RWWJ's and LWWJ's. I think the RWWJ posts are up there because they are so absurd. Hopefully those that post them just want to get under your skin a little.

We ALL know that Obama needed that fake Hawaiian birth certificate in order to get into that Muslim school where he could meet and train the Radical Muslim America Haters he will appoint to the Supreme Court without American flag pins on their lapels and be sworn in with their hand on the Koran.

Wish in one hand sh!t in the other and see which fills up first.



You seem to have a head on your shoulders, must be from living so close to San Francisco.............

A bit of sense rubbed off on ya Hank............

I met another Californian who posts on here sometimes over the weekend, and he was also a fairly well adjusted type.................from San Rafael.

Must be all that Bay area livin' that makes you guys so damn sensible.

LWWJ's? Does this guy qualify?

edit cause the link wont work so

www.chicagoagainstobama.com

first video shows some of the LWWJ's but 2nd video is the one I tried to post- the guy with the make believe gas mask.

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Or perhaps another queestion, when was the last time a 'far left' member (whatever that is btw) posted some not so veiled item about McCain, like 'he gave the enemy information about troops and carriers in the area while he was a POW' ? (Even though McCain freely admits that he did so in his autobiography) Considering McCain himself admitted so in his autobiography, that would seem a legitimate issue for discussion, yet I haven't seen it posted.

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From what I've been able to bring up on the net(anti McCain supporters), and Snopes, and without the said autobiography in hand....This smells like crap.

So I take it KK you read this for yourself?

Mf

You are a McCain supporter who hasn't read McCain's autobiography, eh ?

Then why would you say it smells like crap ?

He gave the info to 'the gook' (as McCain calls them) to get medical attention for his injuries after he was shot down.

He made 32 propaganda films for the Vietnamese government. He also immediately began spilling his guts about locations of American troops and the flight paths of our aircrafts because he was afraid of being tortured.

The Vietnamese named him Song Bird.

His 636 page Military record is sealed.


After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[30] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[42][43]


I won't , and have not been critical of a man for failing under the conditions McCain had to endure, but that doesn't change the fact that he did.

Conservatives, real hardcore types, have been critical of McCain for years about this, and there are currently, and have been entire websites that talk about McCain, and his actions while a POW.

Many of these sites have been up and running as long as I have had internet access, say the early to mid 90's. I first read about it in 1973 or 1975, while doing research for a paper on US POW's while in school.

It's certainly not a new story by any stretch of the imagination, but it doesn't have a 'madrassa' or a 'phony birth certificate' involved. Nor does it have a 'Blow Job' , so I guess it's just not important................

Here's on of those despicable 'Youtube' links that some 'whack job' put up on the innertubes.............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvXEsW4Fgg


Here's some 'hate america first type' who decided that even though there wasn't a 'birth certificate' involved, or even a 'blow job' that some story about how a soldier acted dishonorably should be shared with other interested parties, what a loser.................

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065


But I'd say buy the book, and look for the quote I used, where McCain admits to acting dishonorably.
After all, any 'whack job' can make a claim on the 'ol innertubes, just look at some of your posts for instance..............

I probably would have cracked under pressure myself, most would.
But I'd have the decency and dignity NOT to run for President and claim to be 'war hero' every time I had a chance.

How many "POW Cards' are there in a deck anyway ?

LB, you can get a reprint of your birth certificate on the current forms, which are different than the ones back in the 50's & 60's. I know because I got a reprint of mine, then found my old one. Two completely different formats.


Ya, I know. Its fun to see who bites.

You seem to have a head on your shoulders, must be from living so close to San Francisco.............

A bit of sense rubbed off on ya Hank............

I met another Californian who posts on here sometimes over the weekend, and he was also a fairly well adjusted type.................from San Rafael.

Must be all that Bay area livin' that makes you guys so damn sensible.

I don't live close to S.F. I'm deep in the thick of it....and wanting to be out of it. If you were to live here and get a taste of Progressive Politics up close and personal, you'd be pulling out your hair because of the inanity of it. Not just S.F. but CA in general. No trans fats to be sold in this state soon. Do you think if trans fats were taxed as heavily as tobacco they would be banned? Tobacco is a known killer; not just for those that use it but the poor innocents that have to be exposed to it. Is that banned? Count the money it brings in and get back to me with your NO answer. The S.F. answer to this conundrum is to ban the sale of tobacco in Drug Stores. Is nicotine a drug? Must be if we get addicted to it. The most logical place to sell it would be a .....Drug Store. Now you have to go to a liquor store to get it,lined up next to the other stuff that will eventually kill you. Or Costco, where they have a what? why a Drug Store of course. I think some of the Bored of Stupidvisors have a hard on for Walgreens

Now we have to tell people what they are allowed to eat. In S.F. they want nutritional values posted on their menus. More cost for the owner that will be absorbed by the customer. Did I mention the recently overturned (VOTED ON) ban of rifles and pistols in this town. I was going to go out and buy a pistol just because these bumblewits were telling me I couldn't have one. I already have a shotgun to handle the people that were breaking into my house while not paying any attention what-so-ever to the ban.

I think I know who you mean from San Rafael. One Way. Has a place on Whidby. He and I pm'd a few times. We grew up in the same town of Novato, around 25 miles north of S.F. A few years younger than me. I might have known his older sister from High School.

As far as sensible...I guess I'm about as sensible as a conservative can get. I at least am old enough to be able to sniff out the B.S.

Yeah it was One Way, and Howard was fun to fish with, a real good guy too.
We had a blast, lots of laughs..............

I know you're a conservative Hank, but you seem to be an old school 'movement ' conservative, and not a neocon, trendy flavor of the week conservative. So because of that, you have my respect for consitency in beliefs. Not agreement mind you, just respect.............

In short, you're obviously not a knuckle dragger............

Besides you have a good sense of humor, and use a toilet paper roll....................

If you're ever up this way, you have a seat on my boat on the OP.

You didn't answer my question....Did you read for yourself out of John McCains auuuuto? Because this sounds alot like the Bias verbage written by
DOUGLAS VALENTINE...or just posing a question?.....

Why it smells like crap?

Supposedly John openly admits that he gave info to the NV, freely....but you posted "His 636 page Military record is sealed".

Now it's looking like crap...

Mf

The main reason I like McCain, liked him from the get go was because he spoke out against torture. I wanted to hear any politician speak against it, he did, he does, he has good reason to.

I really wanted Hillary cause I like the current dem platform, was once an R & voted party before really thinking - something I regret. I won't fall for party ever, ever again in my lifetime, voting now on character.

I posted his quote, it's in his autobiography, as well as in his US News and World report article he wrote for them, published May 14, 1973 (it could be 1974, I forget)

I don't know who Douglas Valentine is.

If I can find my copy of McCain's book (I think it's in a box in my closet) I'll even give you the page number.

You can find the US news piece on the 'net, maybe even find the quote on Wikipedia, no doubt with annotation leading to the US News piece, as it's the most commonly used citation for that particular quote.

You may think it looks like crap, but it's not.

Product of public schools, aren't ya?

Thanks for the info...I normally stick to books with pictures....

Mf

Pictures of............................. House Pages ?....................Larry Craig's Favorite Restrooms ? .......................

I can't in good conscience say anything negative about McCain's failing under captivity, it wouldn't be fair, I've never been taken prisoner.

But that doesn't mean it didn't happen, and that others who were there under the same circumstances didn't fail.

..................and that's food for thought...........................

Am I the only one here who misses Aunty M? So in the words of Aunty M

(Sorry but since she won't chime in had to copy an old post of hers)

Quote AuntyM, 04/10/08 Crock of Sh-t! thread:

"The last article of the Code of Conduct, 7d is something you might want to ponder in your slanderings of McCain.

Quote:
d. Upon repatriation, POWs can expect their actions to be reviewed, both as to circumstances of capture and conduct during detention. The purpose of such review is to recognize meritorious performance as well as to investigate possible misconduct. Each review will be conducted with due regard for the rights of the individual and consideration for the conditions of captivity; captivity of itself is not a condition of culpability.


Again, John McCain was never disciplined for your false accusations, and he completed his career with an honorable discharge upon retirement. Those who were with him at HH all said he conducted himself honorably and was a great help to them.

Those are the FACTS and your whacked out diatribe is just that. Whacked out liberal weeny whining."
End Quote.

I am not slandering McCain, I am quoting him................

and if you're going use AM as a 'source' for anything other than a Biscuit and Gravy recipie.................................

Considering the record is sealed, hard to say exactly what the outcome of any hearing was though, now isn't it ?